[HN Gopher] Points on Cartooning (1937)
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Points on Cartooning (1937)
Author : dxs
Score : 58 points
Date : 2023-04-12 13:38 UTC (9 hours ago)
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| nielsbot wrote:
| I love the approach and drawing style.. but note that some of the
| caricatures are definitely dated, even though the text advises:
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| "When picturing any certain type try to bring out the humorous
| qualities first and be careful not to poke fun in a manner to
| offend any particular nationality or creed."
| dmonitor wrote:
| genuinely confused how the author/illustrator can include that
| sentence under their depiction of a black person. the lack of
| awareness is incredible.
| khazhoux wrote:
| I see these pictures and think "How did they possibly think
| black people's lips were that big??"
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| But here's a different take: this is a visual language, and
| non-realistic by definition. Nobody's nose is shaped like a
| finger, as in every one of these cartoons. No one's eyes are
| blank disks. Heads aren't that big and bellies aren't that
| round. Yet we all understand how to read these cartoons.
|
| Maybe that's just how it was then too, and was just meant to
| convey "this is a black person." No ill will, no hate, no
| judgement.
| amelius wrote:
| This is from 1937, but in 2037 a similar book will probably go
| like "use this prompt to get this effect, use that prompt to get
| that effect, ..."
| dylan604 wrote:
| maybe this can be used to train stable diffusion to learn how to
| create hands
| nielsbot wrote:
| The latest Midjourney claims to render credible hands
|
| cf. https://petapixel.com/2023/03/17/midjourney-v5-creates-
| photo...
| dylan604 wrote:
| making claims with no visual evidence seems suspect to me for
| a product that makes visual things
| clsec wrote:
| My parents had a lot of old music and art books like this. It's
| where (along with strong influences from Don Martin & Antonio
| Prohias - MAD) I learned cartooning.
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| Also, from dmonitor: >genuinely confused how the
| author/illustrator can include that sentence under their
| depiction of a black person. the lack of awareness is incredible.
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| It was 1937. I was born in the 60's and Song of the South
| regularly played on the Sunday night Disney show. Racism was
| blatent back in the day, but also considered normal.
| 082349872349872 wrote:
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| daralthus wrote:
| In a similar vein, the much much more elaborate book: Scott
| McCloud's - Making Comics, teaches more about visual
| communication than any other I came across.
|
| To single out an example: the chapter about picking which moments
| to frame, if you have 6 frames for a story, really did change the
| way I remember events from then on.
| 082349872349872 wrote:
| McCloud's distinction (in "Understanding Comics"?) between
| beginners seeing art style and aficionados seeing storytelling
| really hit home for me when viewed against computing: the
| aspects one considers relevant change with experience.
| unfairly4820 wrote:
| Awesome find! Haha this is like the bible for cartoonists. It was
| one of the first books on the topic: Was one of the first books
| ever published on the art of cartooning. At the time of its
| publication, cartooning was not yet considered a serious art
| form, but the book helped to change that perception. It
| definitely features a lot of humor, like the author's humor is
| evident throughout the book, and he uses humorous illustrations
| to help explain his points. It's still relevant today, despite
| being published over 80 years ago, many of the tips and
| techniques in "Points on Cartooning" are still relevant to
| aspiring cartoonists today.
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