[HN Gopher] 'Appallingly unethical': why Australian universities...
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       'Appallingly unethical': why Australian universities are at
       breaking point
        
       Author : adrian_mrd
       Score  : 10 points
       Date   : 2023-04-11 21:15 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (www.theguardian.com)
        
       | Rodeoclash wrote:
       | Prior to the pandemic, when the universities were still allowing
       | international students (and I believe they're about to reopen to
       | international students again soon) the anecdotes I was hearing
       | from teachers was appalling. Pressure to pass students despite
       | them being barely able to speak English, let alone know the
       | subject matter.
       | 
       | The universities here in Australia have essentially transitioned
       | to being businesses and failing students is bad for business. The
       | incentives have become completely misaligned and short sighted.
       | 
       | Who I choose to interview and eventually hire now has no
       | relationship to a computer science degree. Instead I'm looking at
       | what you've actually achieved prior to the interview. If you're
       | coming in for an entry level position, show me your group
       | project. Show me you fumbling around in technologies that you
       | don't really understand fully yet but have a genuine interest in.
       | I want to see the homepage you created for your dads panel
       | beating business, that alone tells me that you're curious enough
       | about the industry to actually try (and succeed!) in creating
       | something, even if it looks like a dogs breakfast.
       | 
       | I know others are thinking the same way when hiring and the
       | universities have only themselves to blame for chasing short term
       | profits over long term viability.
        
       | MrVandemar wrote:
       | Universities aren't learning institutions anymore, they are
       | businesses. They are not run by academics, but by managers who in
       | the face of criticism spew "hooray statements" about mental-
       | health frameworks instead of improving conditions. They no longer
       | have students, but customers.
       | 
       | And customers, if they don't get what they _paid_ for, complain.
        
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