[HN Gopher] NSA created online cybersecurity course with 100s of...
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       NSA created online cybersecurity course with 100s of classes
        
       Author : graderjs
       Score  : 95 points
       Date   : 2023-04-07 13:40 UTC (9 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (clark.center)
 (TXT) w3m dump (clark.center)
        
       | sacrosanct wrote:
       | > One of the goals of the National Security Agency (NSA) is to
       | advance the state of cybersecurity
       | 
       | Don't forget the NSA does both offense and defense. More so
       | offense from what I've gathered. Advancing 'the state of
       | cybersecurity' whilst also using 0day they refuse to alert others
       | of / patch / disclose, and use 0day for themselves only[0]
       | 
       | [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOBUS
        
         | godelski wrote:
         | It's important to remember this because those two subgroups are
         | often in contention with one another. This is why you see high
         | ranking members of the NSA (or other groups) advocating for
         | strong encryption as well as high ranking members advocating
         | against encryption. It is always clear who is who by what they
         | are advocating for. But we definitely have a bias for hearing
         | red team instead of blue team. I hope that shifts, because blue
         | team is far more important (and a substantially more difficult
         | problem).
        
         | 13of40 wrote:
         | To be fair, a lot of the people involved in the offensive side
         | find their forever homes in defensive cybersecurity orgs in the
         | private sector. If you take a long view of it, the
         | offensive/defensive split is a lot less ominous.
        
         | rocket_surgeron wrote:
         | >Advancing 'the state of cybersecurity' whilst also using 0day
         | they refuse to alert others of / patch / disclose, and use 0day
         | for themselves only[0]
         | 
         | A bit like spinning off many military/space technological
         | advances for civilian applications while keeping the juicy bits
         | secret, no?
        
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       | mikewarot wrote:
       | No mention of data diodes, aka unidirectional networks... Not
       | good
       | 
       | Correction: Horrible search engine. It turns out that commenting
       | from a phone is suboptimal
        
         | vulcan01 wrote:
         | This is classic HN: "This useful resource does not include
         | $MY_PREFERRED_TECHNOLOGY, therefore it is bad."
        
           | ftxbro wrote:
           | No mention of large language models, aka llms... Not good
        
           | thrill wrote:
           | This is correct to some degree - both the criticism and the
           | complaint.
        
         | marcus0x62 wrote:
         | There are a bunch of topics not covered in these courses. I
         | fail to see how not covering a single _extremely niche_
         | defensive capability is "not good".
        
         | stonogo wrote:
         | Your ability to scrub almost six hundred course programs in a
         | matter of hours is impressive.
        
       | WraithM wrote:
       | Build a CYBER CUBE
        
       | TurkishPoptart wrote:
       | What is this site? NSA has but a section in this list of courses.
        
         | cypherpunks01 wrote:
         | Site says: The CLARK System is partially supported by:
         | 
         | - the National Security Agency under NSA Grant H9830-17-1-0405,
         | H98230-21-1-0175
         | 
         | - NCyTE Center
         | 
         | - California State University San Bernardino, and
         | 
         | - Towson University
         | 
         | Appears to be primarily run by CS staff and students at Towson
         | University
        
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