[HN Gopher] The City That Fell Off a Cliff
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       The City That Fell Off a Cliff
        
       Author : benbreen
       Score  : 63 points
       Date   : 2023-04-05 15:37 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | playingalong wrote:
       | Similar thing with a church in NW Poland:
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruins_of_the_church_in_Trz%C4%...
        
         | interfixus wrote:
         | A Danish one, too, teetering on the brink. If you walk down the
         | stairs to the right of the church, down on the beach you can
         | make out a thin, greyish horizontal line in the white chalk of
         | the cliffs, gunsmoke from the big thing which disturbed
         | dinosaur tranquility. This is one of the places the Alvarez'es
         | went - around 1980 - to collect their evidence.
         | 
         | https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:H%C3%B8jerup_Gam...
        
       | blowski wrote:
       | In 2019, coastal defences were significantly improved in Bacton,
       | which is just up the road from Dunwich.
       | 
       | https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-58919791
        
       | MoSattler wrote:
       | One of the maps in the article is titled "Northern Sea or German
       | Ocean". I never heard "German Ocean" before. Did they mean the
       | "Deutsche Bucht" (German Bay)?
        
         | scatters wrote:
         | > Before the adoption of "North Sea", the names used in English
         | were "German Sea" or "German Ocean", referred to as the Latin
         | names "Mare Germanicum" and "Oceanus Germanicus", and these
         | persisted in use until the First World War.
         | 
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sea#cite_ref-106
        
       | Maursault wrote:
       | There are many ways to preserve and even extend shoreline. It's
       | just too bad that coastal engineering technology was 400 years
       | too late for this old town.
        
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         | truculent wrote:
         | More like 700 years from the sounds of things.
         | 
         | > This city was once the same physical size as the City of
         | London with a population, in its late-thirteenth-century
         | heyday, of around ten thousand, before it was savagely
         | diminished by two calamitous sea-storms in 1288 and 1328
         | initiating a process of coastal erosion that would plunge much
         | of the city off the cliff in the succeeding, sorrowful
         | centuries.
        
           | knodi123 wrote:
           | my uncle used to say, invest in land, it's the only thing
           | they're not making any more of. he would probably call
           | volcanic islands the exception that proves the rule.
        
             | fsckboy wrote:
             | land in Dunwich must have soared in value as there was less
             | and less of it!
        
           | rikroots wrote:
           | The late 13th century was a time for some epic storms: https:
           | //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_England_flood_of_Februar...
        
             | wahern wrote:
             | The map in that article seems bogus. Looking at Google
             | Maps, including the satellite view, the actual modern
             | coastline looks just like the supposed pre-1287 coastline.
             | To orient myself, both in the article's map and Google
             | Maps, I drew a line from Hastings to Gravesend.
             | 
             | There's simply no way that article map is legitimate; at
             | best the peninsula may have been temporarily flooded. The
             | whole peninsula was a marsh both before and after the
             | flood. And contrary to the Wikipedia article, from a quick
             | glance at the sources it seems it has become drier over
             | time, presumably due to human activity.
        
         | zabzonk wrote:
         | > There are many ways to preserve and even extend shoreline.
         | 
         | None seem to be effective here:
         | https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/tiny-yorkshir...
         | (lots of other examples on the English East Coast).
         | 
         | You may be able to slow things, but in the end, the sea is
         | going to win.
        
       | Lio wrote:
       | As a side note for anyone interested in present day Dunwich, the
       | next Dunwich Dynamo ride is on 1st July 2023.
       | 
       | It's a free annual bike ride where 1000s ride from Hackney in
       | East London through the night to Dunwich beach.
       | 
       | With many pubs along the way staying open all night and locals
       | putting out little candles it's a magical ride that anyone can
       | do.
       | 
       | (Oh, and it's pronounced Dun-ige to rhyme with midge not Dun-
       | which for anyone wondering.)
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       | https://www.dunwichdynamo.co.uk/
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunwich_Dynamo
        
         | DonaldFisk wrote:
         | > it's a magical ride that anyone can do.
         | 
         | It's 180km, so you do need to be reasonably fit. I was on it
         | each year from 2008-2014. Options on the way back are (were?)
         | book a seat on a bus, ride to Saxmundham and get the train from
         | there, ride to Ipswich and get the train from there, or (if
         | you're _really_ fit), ride home. There are a few things to see
         | when you get there, the ruins of Greyfriars Priory, a leper
         | hospital, and a museum.
        
         | ljf wrote:
         | I highly recommend this ride, it is so much fun. Just make sure
         | you book the transport back and don't hope to get a train or
         | public transport, just too many people!
        
       | gumby wrote:
       | With a name like Dun _wich_ it shouldn't be a surprise.
        
       | bell-cot wrote:
       | Important Context:
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_of_England#Superficial...
       | 
       | The "land" that was (and is) being eaten away by the sea - at a
       | seemingly furious pace - is not good bedrock. Nor even "White
       | Cliffs of Dover" soft chalk. It is a mix of sand, clay, random
       | rocks, and such - which glacial action piled up during ice ages.
       | And is now washing away like a big sand castle on the beach, as
       | gravity and a bit of wave action do their natural duties.
        
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