[HN Gopher] Bell Labs gave up its roof to patch the Statue of Li...
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       Bell Labs gave up its roof to patch the Statue of Liberty
        
       Author : jmurphyau
       Score  : 175 points
       Date   : 2023-04-04 17:59 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
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       | fnordprefect wrote:
       | In (I think) the first edition of Zumdahl's chemistry textbook,
       | there was a great summary of some of the things they had to do to
       | preserve the statue, and it went beyond just repairing the skin.
       | 
       | The wiki article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation-
       | restoration_of_th...) has a lot of it, but IIRC after they
       | installed stainless steel, at some point they passed electricity
       | through it, which had the effect of making it susceptible to
       | corrosion, and then had to do something else to restore its
       | resistance.
       | 
       | I wish I could find it now, as it was a fascinating read, but I
       | can't see anything easily online.
        
         | maxerickson wrote:
         | One of the NYT articles at the link mentions the stainless
         | steel.
         | 
         | This WaPo article talks about it more:
         | https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1986/07/02/b...
         | 
         | This article suggests that the DC current treatment was to
         | avoid corrosion (also has some nice illustrations of the
         | support framework for the skin):
         | 
         | https://copper.org/education/liberty/liberty_reclothed2.php
         | 
         | A related blurb just says they built some equipment (probably
         | the equipment to do the DC annealing, but who knows):
         | 
         | https://www.romanmfg.com/roman-manuacturing-helps-restore-th...
         | 
         | The Wikipedia article mentions the annealing and then sand
         | blasting to remove iron from the surface (contaminants on the
         | surface of the stainless can compromise the oxide layer that
         | forms).
         | 
         | Maybe something in there will jog your memory.
        
       | lokimedes wrote:
       | I'm currently reading the book this site referenced, "The idea
       | factory" a wonderful account on Bell Labs with portraits of
       | Shockley, Shannon and the other fathers of the information age.
        
       | ushakov wrote:
       | The statue was crowdfunded
       | 
       | From Wikipedia:
       | 
       | > Publisher Joseph Pulitzer, of the New York World, started a
       | drive for donations to finish the project and attracted more than
       | 120,000 contributors, most of whom gave less than a dollar
       | (equivalent to $30 in 2021)
        
         | soperj wrote:
         | The statue itself was as well, just in France.
         | 
         | >Initially focused on the elites, the Union was successful in
         | raising funds from across French society. Schoolchildren and
         | ordinary citizens gave, as did 181 French municipalities.
        
         | silisili wrote:
         | AIUI, the fundraising was for the pedestal, not the statue
         | itself.
        
           | testplzignore wrote:
           | A classic scam. Free statue, just pay shipping and
           | pedestaling.
        
             | labster wrote:
             | Sometimes they don't even send the monument and you're just
             | stuck with a random plinth.
             | 
             | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zocalo
        
               | schiffern wrote:
               | TIL the etymological origin of "The Zocalo" in Babylon 5.
               | 
               | https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Zocalo
        
             | dylan604 wrote:
             | We'll continue to ship you a new one each month until you
             | finally remember to jump through the hoops, er, call our
             | operators who are standing by to cancel
        
         | EntrePrescott wrote:
         | The Pulitzer fundraiser wasn't for the statue but for the
         | pedestal on which it was to be placed. The statue was a gift of
         | the people of France. That being said, crowdfunding campaigns
         | were also a part of the the fundraising for the statue (that
         | is, in France), together with a wide mix of other sources:
         | state money, cities, chambers of commerce, and several other
         | groups, huge donations by companies, banquet events, operas and
         | other spectacles, merchandising, lottery etc.
        
           | cultofmetatron wrote:
           | > The statue was a gift of the people of France.
           | 
           | with "reparations" from the people of haiti
        
             | selimthegrim wrote:
             | That's what the broken chains on the bottom are for
        
             | cultofmetatron wrote:
             | 3 downvotes. I guess we have a few desantis supporter up on
             | here...
        
       | geocrasher wrote:
       | [flagged]
        
       | nicoburns wrote:
       | I feel like it might look quite cool if it was patched with new
       | copper (at least if it was done well). A bit like kintsugi
       | pottery.
        
         | jegdyjfgyj wrote:
         | See this recent artwork by Danh Vo which plays with the idea of
         | fragments of the copper skin.
         | https://www.publicartfund.org/exhibitions/view/danh-vo-we-th...
        
         | Latty wrote:
         | Often the kind of thing people hate for a while, and then with
         | enough time becomes iconic and you'd probably end up with an
         | article about how they were debating whether to preserve it or
         | not as it aged.
         | 
         | I think about this a lot when it comes to "eyesores",
         | particularly wind turbines. When you think of how windmills are
         | considered picturesque, it always makes me a little surprised
         | when people moan about modern wind generation, because I think
         | they look great. Especially when most of the areas they are put
         | up are crisscrossed with overhead power lines anyway, which are
         | much less appealing.
        
           | llimos wrote:
           | People like a single windmill, standing picturesquely in the
           | middle of the village.
           | 
           | I don't think anyone would ever have gone for a field of tens
           | or hundreds of them.
        
             | asciimov wrote:
             | I kinda wonder what is gonna happen to them when they reach
             | end of life.
             | 
             | Knowing the history of these kinds of things, they will be
             | left to rot and dangle in the fields they were planted.
        
               | wkat4242 wrote:
               | They're replaced obviously because we really need the
               | electricity they produce.
        
               | soperj wrote:
               | They're buried in places like Wyoming currently.
        
             | mthq wrote:
             | Tell that to the Dutch
             | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windmills_at_Kinderdijk
        
           | asciimov wrote:
           | As a kid that grew up on the south plains (Texas panhandle).
           | I have a love hate relationship with those windmills. On the
           | one hand it's neat seeing all that green power generation. On
           | the other, it does ruin the landscape to some extent, it can
           | be visually jarring to be driving some back road, go over a
           | rise that, and be smack in the middle of a wind farm. It also
           | can be a little distracting at night, where the darkness is
           | awashed in blinking red lights.
        
             | wkat4242 wrote:
             | I think the red lights make them more mysterious at night.
             | 
             | Especially when you drive over a hill and it's all foggy,
             | and there's this big field of red dots flashing. It's like
             | the robots are coming :) I like it.
        
               | chucksmash wrote:
               | Everybody likes to tell their "...and that's what
               | inspired me to go into a technical field" story.
               | 
               | We had several radio masts in an opening near our home
               | growing up. I'm going to start incorporating those into
               | my story. "It was then, gazing at those red lights as a
               | two year old, that I knew I was destined to spend my life
               | writing YavaScript."
               | 
               | Probably some truth to it, tbh. That and locomotive
               | engineers honking when we'd drive by making the universal
               | "honk the horn" sign.
        
           | wkat4242 wrote:
           | Yeah I don't understand why people hate them so much either.
           | I think they look nice too. Better than old-fashioned
           | windmills.
           | 
           | Where I'm from in the Netherlands there's is much less
           | resistance to them anyway because we know the alternative is
           | for our country to be under the sea ;)
        
             | paganel wrote:
             | Some of them kill a lot of birds and bats.
             | 
             | On top of that, they of course need access roads for
             | maintenance crews to come do their thing once in a while,
             | if located in a former pristine environment that isn't
             | ideal. To say nothing of when the construction actually
             | takes place, again, if it all happens in a pristine
             | location then it's not ok.
        
           | trgn wrote:
           | the only time I'd appreciate windmills from an aesthetic
           | point of view is when they are very very far away. Nearby,
           | they are horrible to all senses.
        
           | NotYourLawyer wrote:
           | People hated the Eiffel Tower for a long time.
        
             | oh_sigh wrote:
             | It is said that Guy de Maupassant ate lunch everyday at the
             | base of The Eiffel Tower, because it was the only place in
             | Paris where he couldn't see it
        
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