[HN Gopher] Emacs in Odd Places (2020)
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       Emacs in Odd Places (2020)
        
       Author : susam
       Score  : 81 points
       Date   : 2023-04-04 08:17 UTC (14 hours ago)
        
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       | ilovecaching wrote:
       | This is why I stick to a terminal based editor. You can use it
       | practically anywhere with minimal resource usage. You can use it
       | remotely so any machine is your workstation. You can use it on a
       | machine without a GUI at all.
       | 
       | With the new AI plugins I doubt even Jet Brains will be able to
       | offer much over what Vim and Emacs can provide with fugitive,
       | magit, fzf, etc. providing best in class features while still
       | running on actual terminals.
        
         | goldfeld wrote:
         | As regards both AI plugins as you mention, and "Emacs
         | anywhere", I compiled a list of Emacs ChatGPT plugins[0] along
         | with each having an easy issue/tasks for others to help linked
         | below, and on the next installment of this newsletter I'm
         | planning to feature among more AI plugins things like
         | controlling Firefox from within Emacs (if I can reach that
         | plug-in's author to get permission to feature.)
         | 
         | 0: https://generativereview.substack.com/p/tasks-open-source-
         | em...
        
         | FullyFunctional wrote:
         | I have state-of-the-art gear and I mostly do everything in the
         | terminal. Why? Because I run months long sessions in tmux that
         | I attach to from all sorts of places and machines, including
         | whatever notebook my youngest left around or from my phone (via
         | Terminus) to quickly check on something.
         | 
         | Being able to resume exactly where I left off is more important
         | to me than fancy colors and fonts (and the mouse to too slow
         | and imprecise anyway).
        
         | jrootabega wrote:
         | You can sandbox it more easily, too.
        
         | gustavorg wrote:
         | I think there is no problem using an editor like VisualCode or
         | Notepad++. But you should have an editor like Emacs or in my
         | case VI at hand. It is a lethal weapon to solve any problem in
         | inhospitable environments where speed and power are required. I
         | want to believe that VI or Emacs is like that gun that James
         | Bond or Jim West has up his sleeve, and at the push of a button
         | it deploys to your hand in case of emergency. Subtle, fast, and
         | effective in emergencies.
        
           | _glass wrote:
           | yes, so true. as an avid Emacs user, still, I love vi for
           | being available everywhere and impressing people on
           | production machines to adjust config files. somehow the
           | muscle memory of my teenage years is still there. a weapon
           | for a more noble age.
        
       | euroclydon wrote:
       | I was hoping to see an emacs macro operating a water pump or
       | something.
        
       | Forge36 wrote:
       | Previous discussion https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25108697
        
       | leemailll wrote:
       | That ATC story is as legend as the blackbird speedcheck.
        
       | nightfreeze wrote:
       | Logseq is a very nice Org app for your phone as well.
       | 
       | https://github.com/logseq/logseq
        
         | nightfreeze wrote:
         | Oh and there's now a native Emacs port for Android, with
         | touchscreen support.
         | 
         | https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsOnAndroid
         | 
         | https://sourceforge.net/projects/android-ports-for-gnu-emacs...
        
       | FullyFunctional wrote:
       | The defining requirement for my first ever notebook (circa 1991)
       | was that it had to be able to run the One True Emacs. That was
       | met by a Toshiba T1800 w/4 MiB 386/sx @ 16 MHz, running a very
       | early Slackware Linux. Wasn't powerful enough to run X (in
       | practice), but having Emacs means I can be productive.
       | 
       | It still sets the lower bar for what I consider useful, but
       | indeed, 2nd best thing is a terminal into a computer running
       | emacs.
        
       | wduquette wrote:
       | So happens, the "dumb terminal" he depicts as a dumb terminal is
       | a VT320, one of the quintessential smart terminals. If you want a
       | dumb terminal, go find a picture of an ADM 3a. (I first used
       | emacs on a VT220, IIRC.)
        
         | FullyFunctional wrote:
         | I had a job where I used an ADM 3a hooked up to a Sun 3. It
         | worked, but I don't miss it. A vt320 is a lot fancier.
        
       | m463 wrote:
       | I used to try installing emacs on many systems, but now I use
       | tramp.
       | 
       | It's super-easy to edit files over ssh on a remote system that
       | doesn't need to have an editor installed:                 c-x c-f
       | /remotehost:filename
       | 
       | https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/TrampMode
        
         | Y_Y wrote:
         | Likely you want to use:                       C-x C-f
         | /ssh:remotehost:filename RET
         | 
         | and hope that you haven't broken it by using a weird prompt on
         | the other end. Emacs expects to get a standard bash shell when
         | it connects over ssh.
         | 
         | And for the record, it's 2023 and you can't just assume
         | someone's keybindings. I use something more like:
         | SPC f f /ssh:foo@bar:baz@quux:/etc/motd
        
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