[HN Gopher] Ancient soldiers used sound to frighten and confuse ...
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Ancient soldiers used sound to frighten and confuse their enemies
(2022)
Author : tintinnabula
Score : 18 points
Date : 2023-04-03 04:42 UTC (18 hours ago)
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| cronix wrote:
| Kind of like the Stuka Siren/Scream[1] sound combined with the
| doppler effect the German planes used in WW2 to make that wailing
| sound that increased in frequency as they dive bombed. That sound
| carried quite a distance and instilled fear in anyone who heard
| it, which affected more people than those that were bombed. The
| Tie Fighters in Star Wars used a similar sound.
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| [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhJ8HY24Pb8
| RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote:
| Another example is Gideon from the Bible where they smashed a
| bunch of jars and blew trumpets in the middle of the night which
| caused the enemy to think they were being attacked by a large
| army and caused them to fight each other.
| viraptor wrote:
| Another one to add to that collection:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_hussars Polish heavy cavalry
| with wings making loud buzzing noise during charge.
| bitsinthesky wrote:
| Do you have an example handy of the sound they'd make, maybe a
| youtube video? Sounds interesting.
| twic wrote:
| There's a bit in Xenophon's Anabasis (1.8.18) where the armies of
| two contenders for the throne of the Persian Empire, Cyrus and
| Artaxerxes, meet in battle. Cyrus's army has a contingent of
| Greek mercenaries, including Xenophon, who gives the Greek view
| of the battle in some detail. The armies draw up into lines and
| slowly advance towards each other, until suddenly the Greeks
| charge:
|
| kai ama ephthegxanto pantes oion to Enualio elelizousi
|
| and at the same time they all uttered the cry as for the Warlike
| One [ie Ares, god of war]
|
| kai pantes de etheon
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| and all flew forward
|
| legousi de tines os kai tais aspisi pros ta dorata edoupesan
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| they say that some loudly beat their shields with their spears
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| phobon poiountes tois ippois
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| sowing fear among the horses
|
| (the Greek is Xenophon's [1], the English my crummy translation)
|
| So, screaming and drumming to scare the enemy and his horses!
|
| The reason i remember this bit about thirty years later is that
| the word for a war-cry here is "elelizousi", "elelizousi". My
| teacher suggested that this was onomatopoeic, because the cry
| itself was "ELELELELELELE...", which would be pretty easy to make
| as you were running towards an enemy, and would be pretty
| upsetting to hear, coming from thousands of armoured Greeks. As
| sort of evidence for that, the same word also means "to whirl
| round" [2], and you can imagine that whirling an object round on
| a string (as with a sling) would also make the same sort of
| sound. Wiktionary reckons it's from some proto-Indo-European
| root, but what do they know, they've probably never charged
| anyone in their lives, the nerds.
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| [1]
| https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext...
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| [2]
| https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/morph?l=e%29leli%2Fzous...
| UI_at_80x24 wrote:
| My personal favorite item related to this is various peoples that
| used slings would carve lead/stone ammo to make a high-pitch
| whistle as the bullets flew through the air.
| analog31 wrote:
| No mention of the bagpipes.
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