[HN Gopher] International Orange
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       International Orange
        
       Author : khobragade
       Score  : 81 points
       Date   : 2023-04-02 18:08 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | spuz wrote:
       | Interestingly, HN's orange is almost exactly halfway between the
       | aerospace International Orange and Safety Orange.
        
       | yreg wrote:
       | From now on, my HN top color is International Orange.
        
       | jabl wrote:
       | Something close to this international orange / safety orange is
       | used for safety equipment on ships.
       | 
       | Lime yellow has become popular on fire trucks, ambulances, and
       | similar. See https://www.apa.org/topics/safety-design/fire-
       | engine-color-s...
        
       | et-al wrote:
       | I wonder if this shade of reddish-orange suffers from the
       | Purkinje effect, where reds appear darker to the human eye in low
       | light settings.
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purkinje_effect
        
       | Raed667 wrote:
       | Also the most used color for SMBs (surface marker buoy) when
       | scuba diving.
       | 
       | Interestingly, the bright yellow color usually means accident,
       | while orange means regular decompression stop. I have seen pink
       | ones but they seem very rare.
       | 
       | So I'm guessing people must think yellow is more visible?
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_marker_buoy
        
         | chrishawes wrote:
         | I've started seeing more black DSMBs recently. They're meant to
         | be very visible, but every skipper I've spoken to disagrees.
         | 
         | When I'm doing project diving, we'll use a pink DSMB to mark
         | something that we want to go back to, and not surface with it.
         | 
         | Orange for surfacing and yellow for an emergency, as you
         | describe.
        
           | Raed667 wrote:
           | I feel like there is a market for black "tactical" DSMBs for
           | those dudes who _really_ like to be special ops. And what
           | better color than full black to mean serious operator!  /s
        
         | dahdum wrote:
         | I've seen plenty of yellow sausages that didn't mean emergency,
         | I think that's location specific (I'm not sure where it
         | applies). Most people I know pick the color based on personal
         | preference / color matching the rest of the gear.
        
           | Raed667 wrote:
           | I've only done some diving in the Mediterranean (south of
           | France). And the orange/yellow colors is the "recommended"
           | advice I got from the local dive shops and the common
           | understanding in the diving boats I've been on.
           | 
           | It a shame that CMAS, PADI or SSI don't propose a standard.
        
       | JasonFruit wrote:
       | I've often wished that more vehicles were available in these
       | highly visible colors. I really don't like driving a gray van on
       | a gray road in the rain.
        
         | bmurray7jhu wrote:
         | So did I, so I wrapped my car orange:
         | 
         | https://photos.app.goo.gl/ru4EBj1SibVu1sqj6
        
           | smcl wrote:
           | I wasn't prepared for how good that looked. I'm not a big fan
           | of orange, but for some reason it really works on that car.
           | Great job :)
        
           | jtbayly wrote:
           | Alright, I just added Google Photos to the list of links I
           | won't click anymore.
           | 
           | What purpose does it serve to break the back button?
        
             | lm28469 wrote:
             | It works fine on chrome and firefox for me
        
               | jtbayly wrote:
               | (I'm on iOS.)
        
               | ajdude wrote:
               | Same here. I finally got back after rapidly tapping the
               | back button enough times.
        
               | philposting wrote:
               | The back button also breaks for me on macOS Safari.
        
             | Gibbon1 wrote:
             | Because google wants to choose what you see and where you
             | go next. The back button is an escape. So they don't want
             | that to work.
        
       | infinet wrote:
       | Are these orange colors easily recognizable by color blindness?
        
         | fwlr wrote:
         | When it comes to colorblindness, it doesn't make much sense to
         | ask if a single color is recognizable. Color blindness is a
         | difficulty in distinguishing between different colors - some
         | pairs of colors that are visibly contrasting to normal sight
         | may not be visibly contrasting to colorblind sight, such as
         | red/brown, brown/green, and red/green.
         | 
         | There are three main mechanisms of colorblindness,
         | corresponding to the three main types of light receptors in the
         | eye: deutan (green-weak), protan (red-weak), and tritan ("blue-
         | weak", although this is not a common term). About three
         | quarters of color vision issues are deutan, one quarter is
         | protan, less than 1% is tritan.
         | 
         | When you go out into the world and start interacting with
         | contrasting color pairs, both green-weak and red-weak color
         | vision cashes out as "red-green colorblindness", while blue-
         | weak cashes out as "blue-green colorblindness". None of these
         | have issues distinguishing yellow/orange from blue.
         | 
         | Presumably this is actually the motivation for the
         | international air safety color being orange, as it's easily
         | distinguishable from blue sky.
        
       | jtbayly wrote:
       | Why is International Orange (engineering) red instead of orange?
        
         | yreg wrote:
         | How do you define the line between orange and red?
        
           | CUViper wrote:
           | If pure red is at 0deg hue, and orange at 30deg, then that
           | engineering value at 3deg is much closer to red. The other
           | two at 18deg and 19deg better fit the reddish-orange
           | description, still more orange than red, while safety orange
           | is up at 28deg.
        
             | TeMPOraL wrote:
             | I'm going to guess it's path dependence, as usual: that
             | 3deg hue is called "orange" because it came from iterating
             | on other hues that were more orange.
        
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