[HN Gopher] Ryuichi Sakamoto has died
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Ryuichi Sakamoto has died
Author : mellosouls
Score : 416 points
Date : 2023-04-02 13:16 UTC (9 hours ago)
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| mastazi wrote:
| Bibo no Aozora is a favourite of mine. RIP master.
|
| Played live on the piano by Sakamoto
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwhYiHJq16c
|
| Orchestral version from Babel soundtrack
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsKlf_x9zRE
| steponlego wrote:
| My wife and I were just talking yesterday about how we hoped
| Ryuichi would make another album before he died.
| davidjade wrote:
| "12" was released just this last January.
|
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/12_(Ryuichi_Sakamoto_album)
| aledalgrande wrote:
| I did not know him, but after listening to his music I really
| wish I was able to attend one of his live performances.
| folex wrote:
| /05
| jmfldn wrote:
| So sad to hear this. One of my all time favorite artists. I
| discovered him years ago as Yellow Magic Orchestra were a crucial
| influence on electro and techno. As someone into the early roots
| of those genres, YMO became my gateway drug into Sakamoto's wider
| oeuvre.
|
| I always identified with his taste, an eclectic mix of pop, art
| music, classical and electronic. A true original, I will miss him
| greatly.
| blondin wrote:
| sad news. truly love listening to his work. RIP
| cozzyd wrote:
| Rise crystal spear
| processing wrote:
| "An artist's initial broad stroke is always most impactful, and
| obsessively adding layer upon layer of paint to fill in details
| often diminishes the painting's aura. When an aura is lost, it is
| impossible to get back." - Ryuichi Sakamoto
| creamyhorror wrote:
| Very true. Farewell, Mr. Sakamoto.
| deepzn wrote:
| RIP sir. I love listening to his music while studying or working.
| Truly a great.
| jjulius wrote:
| "The industrial revolution made the production of an instrument
| like [the piano] possible. Several planks of wood - six I think
| in this case - are overlaid and pressed into shape by tremendous
| force for six months. Nature is molded into shape. Many tons of
| force and pressure are applied, making the strings what they are.
| Matter taken from nature is molded by human industry, by the sum
| strength of civilization. Nature is forced into shape.
| Interestingly, the piano requires re-tuning. We humans say, 'It
| falls out of tune', but that's not exactly accurate - matter is
| struggling to return to a natural state. The tsunami, in one
| moment, became a force of restoration. The [tsunami-damaged]
| piano re-tuned by nature actually sounds good to me now. In
| short, the piano is tuned by force to please our ears or ideals;
| it's a condition that feels natural to us humans. But from
| nature's perspective, it's very unnatural. I think deep inside me
| somewhere, I have a strong aversion to that."
|
| - Ryuichi Sakamoto
| ChatGTP wrote:
| Probably one of the last beautiful thing I've ever read. Wow.
| pantulis wrote:
| This a great, deep quote! thanks!
| hungryforcodes wrote:
| Though we ourselves are by definition part of the universe and
| thus nature.
| tantivy wrote:
| "Nature" and "natural" are normative terms that commonly
| distinguish the world altered and created by humans from the
| world that isn't altered or created by humans. It's clear in
| context that Sakamoto is using the term accurately in a
| normative sense, not making a semantic error.
| PicassoCTs wrote:
| The whole nature vs civilization narrative, is a story told
| by happy regressors, who want to return to a ilusionary
| before time, were all things were harmony and civilization
| was not. It is of course, a call for mass murder on billions
| of humans with the rumbling instincts from the brain stem and
| guts as justification. Were it justified with any other
| argument, civilized society would tear them to shreds, but in
| the robe of the shaman, they are exempt from the duty of
| reasoning.
|
| None the less, his music is great and can be enjoyed, like
| any other artists, without listening to the political and
| culture drivel that artists sadly often produce. They are
| easily captured and swayed by instinct tautological
| ideologies.
|
| Just because it feels right does not mean it to be true.
|
| My favorite rendition of his "My love wears forbidden colors"
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4tLtg-DMb8
| ChatGTP wrote:
| That's also a story you tell yourself.
| hutzlibu wrote:
| "The whole nature vs civilization narrative, is a story
| told by happy regressors, who want to return to a
| ilusionary before time"
|
| Or maybe it is a bit more complex. And the story maybe
| begins with civilized people who explicitly wanted to
| conquer nature. To make it bow to mens will. And quite some
| still want to exactly this. They were the ones creating
| that artificial distinction.
|
| The romanticism of nature that you are criticize, is more
| of a counter movement to that philosophy, that we are in
| fact part of nature and we have to find our balance within
| the greater cycles.
| 867-5309 wrote:
| quite a strange example. to choose piano components yet omit
| ivory. not all pianos are made from wood and strings either.
| perhaps a worn-out sword or a bursting dam would have been
| better, but what do I know. nice sentiment nonetheless
| jjulius wrote:
| The piano fits for Sakamoto over a sword or a dam because he
| is a musician who spent his life with the piano as his
| primary instrument. It's where he is most experienced and he
| has a much closer relationship to that than a dam or a sword.
|
| Ivory is also typically only used for the keys, and doesn't
| actually impact the tuning of the instrument.
| vintermann wrote:
| He was also referencing a specific piano, an old Yamaha
| piano in the gymnasium of Miyagi Agricultural High School,
| which had been damaged by the tsunami. It seems very
| unlikely that a high school Yamaha grand piano had ivory
| keys.
| jacquesm wrote:
| And it's been a very long time since Ivory was used for the
| keys.
| mastazi wrote:
| Ivory is no longer used for piano keys for obvious reasons,
| that's why in marketing materials you will usually see
| descriptions like "ivory-feel keys".
| xdavidliu wrote:
| reads like a digression by Hugo in Les Miserables or Tolstoy in
| War and Peace
| 50 wrote:
| https://fenneszreleases.bandcamp.com/track/haru-2
| birriel wrote:
| My favorite live performance of "Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence".
| RIP
|
| https://youtu.be/L49FRjnhrWI
| 2h wrote:
| earlier post:
|
| https://youtube.com/watch?v=sk4qdZq0bOE
| bibelo wrote:
| I must have listened to this piece like 2000 times
| jacquesm wrote:
| I had a tape of it when I was a lot younger and on the
| reverse was Japan, Oil on canvas. I ended up wearing it out.
| nathankot wrote:
| It's very interesting to compare with a more recent performance
| (2020): https://youtu.be/X6td9KUZMfw?t=5259
| shuckles wrote:
| "After the concert, we started talking, and he complained
| that I played much slower than the original songs or pieces.
| He asked, "Why?" That made me think, "Why do I want to play
| much slower than before?" Because I wanted to hear the
| resonance. I want to have less notes and more spaces. Spaces,
| not silence. Space is resonant, is still ringing. I want to
| enjoy that resonance, to hear it growing, then the next
| sound, and the next note or harmony can come. That's exactly
| what I want."
|
| - Ryuichi Sakamoto,
| https://thecreativeindependent.com/people/ryuichi-
| sakamoto-o...
| least wrote:
| Gabriel Faure's Pavane Op. 50 is an example of a song that
| really turns into something drastically different when
| played much slower than the prescribed tempo. To me it
| sounds much better that way. In the case of this rendition
| of Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence, it's a bit more subtle
| though. It really does allow you to hear the strings
| resonate more like you quoted, and to me, it makes the
| entire piece sound even more contemplative than it already
| did.
| vonbaum wrote:
| This performance is magical.
| AraceliHarker wrote:
| Sakamoto must have died with a bitter taste in his mouth,
| watching the government try to restart the nuclear plants under
| the pretext of power shortage. He had always been a vocal
| opponent of nuclear power, a rare voice in a country that seemed
| to have forgotten the horrors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He had a
| sharp wit and a playful style, but also a deep sense of justice
| and compassion. He would have hated to see his beloved country go
| down this path of self-destruction.
| shuckles wrote:
| Always a good reminder that genius often does not transcend
| fields.
| deepzn wrote:
| People and admins here should stop downvoting everything,
| otherwise it turns into too much of censorship/taboo. I find
| nothing wrong with this comment, and find it informative. I
| didn't know this view of Sakamoto, and I'm glad to know it.
| Here's more information in an interview with Mr.Sakamoto on the
| topic of Fukushima- https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14222706
| efdee wrote:
| I downvoted because I feel it's abusing Sakamoto's passing
| for the personal agenda of the poster. This is far from
| neutral information, especially the way it is presented.
| ChadNauseam wrote:
| > He had always been a vocal opponent of nuclear power, a rare
| voice in a country that seemed to have forgotten the horrors of
| Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
|
| What is the connection between nuclear power and Hiroshima and
| Nagasaki?
| retrac wrote:
| Nuclear reactors produce plutonium. A world without any
| nuclear reactors or uranium enrichment facilities, is a world
| without nuclear weapons.
|
| It's perhaps particularly relevant with Japan; they are the
| nation probably most often used as an example of a country
| that could develop nuclear weapons almost overnight, should
| the political will materialize. They have the know-how,
| industry, missiles, and because of the nuclear power program,
| both stockpiles of, and the ability to produce, both enriched
| uranium and plutonium.
|
| Edit: Did I hit a nerve or something folks?
|
| For the record I personally strongly support nuclear power.
| Parent asked a question. It's obvious to me why anti-nuclear
| activists link weapons and power reactors. It's not
| (necessarily) lack of scientific understanding -- power
| reactors produce the material for nuclear bombs. Some people
| think that is unacceptable as a proliferation risk. Don't
| shoot the messenger? Was just trying to contribute to the
| discussion positively.
| Zealotux wrote:
| >A world without any nuclear reactors or uranium enrichment
| facilities, is a world without nuclear weapons.
|
| But this is a plain naive argument to make. At this point
| saying "destroying all nuclear bombs means no more nuclear
| bombs" is also technically correct, but even if, let's say,
| civil nuclear energy was impossible to manage, there would
| still be uranium enrichment facilities designed with the
| sole purpose of creating nuclear weapons, because they give
| such a significant strategic advantage to superpowers; they
| just wouldn't allow not to have it when others can.
|
| So even without nuclear power plants you would still have
| nuclear weapons, I really never understood the argument of
| causation civilian and military nuclear energy, on can
| exist without the other.
| PaulHoule wrote:
| ... and so? The death toll due to to nuclear weapons is a
| small fraction of people killed since them by either small
| arms or fossil fuel pollution.
|
| If one attributes the U.S. stepping back from nuclear power
| to the anti-proliferation scare of the mid-1970s (good
| heavens, brown people are making plutonium!) you might then
| consider the alternate path where the U.S. had stayed the
| course, built the 500 reactors it had planned to build by
| 2000, and we'd be talking about some other crisis than the
| "climate crisis."
|
| The constant drumbeat about Hiroshima and Nagasaki is part
| of a larger syndrome where Japan never reconciled with its
| neighbors after WWII the way Germany did and now is stuck
| with a pacifist constitution that seems more of a problem
| than a solution year after year as that part of the word
| becomes increasingly dangerous.
| jfk13 wrote:
| > we'd be talking about some other crisis than the
| "climate crisis."
|
| I doubt that. Perhaps it'd be slightly less acute, that's
| all.
| andsoitis wrote:
| While nuclear power came before nuclear weapons, nuclear
| power was developed with the express purpose of producing
| weapons (Manhattan Project). Only in the 50s did nuclear
| power find civilian (i.e. non-violent) application.
|
| While nuclear power and weapons use similar technology,
| their purpose is diametrically opposed.
| retrac wrote:
| > Only in the 50s did nuclear power find civilian (i.e.
| non-violent) application.
|
| Many of the early designs like Magnox and RBMK were for
| producing plutonium first, and power second. Nuclear
| power was a public relations project more than anything
| else, at least initially. The UK and Russia continue dual
| use with their power reactors today.
|
| > their purpose is diametrically opposed
|
| The purpose is decided by those who control the reactors.
| For example, the power reactors used in Canada produce
| plutonium, from natural uranium. Canada built a small
| heavy water research reactor in India; the material for
| their first nuclear bomb was made in that reactor. This
| was expressly not the intent of Canada.
| andsoitis wrote:
| The thrust of my argument, just to make it explicit, is
| that I think it is unwise to jettison nuclear power as an
| abundant source of energy because of the nuclear weapon
| connection. Alas, these days this view is rather in the
| minority.
| nwatson wrote:
| Incidentally ... the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs were
| dramatic single events that unleashed great destruction, but
| the results for those cities were not worse than those in
| other cities in Japan facing bomb firestorms. The nuclear
| bombs didn't factor much into Japan's eventual surrender.
|
| "There is general agreement that the bombing of Nagasaki did
| little in the way of changing the hearts and minds of the
| Japanese military. By blaming their surrender on the atomic
| bombs, Japan avoided the Soviet Union having a hand in the
| post-war reconstruction process. Japan was afraid that the
| Soviet Union might try to push a communist regime onto the
| country. It was also very convenient for the U.S. that Japan
| attributed their surrender to the atomic bombings."
|
| https://outrider.org/nuclear-weapons/articles/japans-
| surrend...
|
| EDIT: incidentally
| JoeAltmaier wrote:
| Only an artist can draw such strained pictures I guess.
| indigoabstract wrote:
| I listened to some of his songs and enjoyed them. Beautiful
| music. Farewell!
| Hamuko wrote:
| Following the death of Takahashi in January, this leaves Hosono
| as the only surviving member of Yellow Magic Orchestra.
| paganel wrote:
| RIP to a very talented guy. I haven't listen to much of his
| solo work, but Yellow Magic Orchestra was something very
| special, I saw it as "out of this world" music.
| 79a6ed87 wrote:
| I like Takahashi's music a lot and I just learned through your
| comment about his passing. This day got sader out of nowhere
| AraceliHarker wrote:
| Haruomi Hosono became the only member of YMO, just like his
| grandfather who was the only Japanese survivor of the Titanic.
| gHA5 wrote:
| Ryuichi Sakamoto - "andata" (Electric Youth remix)
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g9LEBYJ1oU
| karpour wrote:
| I just found out about YMO in January and have been slightly
| obsessed with them since then. Now another member dies, it's sad
| to read. Seeing this on the front page of HN is nice though, and
| I just am now realizing the massive breadth of Mr. Sakamoto's
| musical skills. There's still so much amazing music to discover
| out there, and I'm glad to see that his legacy will remain, and
| that his music will be listened to by many people who might have
| never heard it before!
| BossHogg wrote:
| This is as surprising to me as it is sad. 2 of 3 YMO members now
| gone at 70 and 71 which seems very young given the renown of
| Japanese longevity. Anyway, Beauty is a favorite album from my
| childhood so probably time for a re-listen.
| toyg wrote:
| _> seems very young given the renown of Japanese longevity_
|
| Well, Sakamoto-san didn't exactly live a traditional Japanese
| life. Three marriages, playing in a band in the '70s (so
| disreputable!), jet-setting around the world... Shit takes its
| toll (unless you're Mick Jagger, of course).
| mrandish wrote:
| I first discovered him when I bought Wild Palms soundtrack, a
| lesser known composition but still amazing.
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMy_Hvk7cGI
| SmartestUnknown wrote:
| "Rain" is one of my favorites. RIP.
| somberi wrote:
| Annoyed by Restaurant Playlists Ryuichi Sakamoto assembled the
| soundtrack for Kajitsu,(a Japanese restaurant) in Murray Hill
| (NYC), and what it says about the sounds we hear (or should)
| while we eat.
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| NY Times article: https://nyti.ms/3zmI4XD
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| Sans Paywall: https://archive.is/9knVL
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| The songs listed, as Spotify Playlist: https://spoti.fi/3znZ4fY
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| I will miss him.
| Overtonwindow wrote:
| It's a miracle he lived as long as he did. The cancer just kept
| coming back.
| toomuchtodo wrote:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryuichi_Sakamoto
| tomduncalf wrote:
| Sad news. I love his work with Alva Noto, the blend of
| experimental piano with raw electronic sounds and glitches is
| really something special: https://spotify.link/2LzLYmBKFyb.
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| I was lucky enough to see them play together a couple of times
| and it was spellbinding. His album "async" is a favourite too.
| I'll have to dig more into his back catalogue.
| Lapsa wrote:
| oooooh... mentioning Alva Noto did the trick for me and I
| remembered who the guy is. contemplated a lot regarding to what
| folks around those lands mean by a negative space. brilliant
| music
| cloudripper wrote:
| Same. I'm a big fan. I caught their performance once in Hong
| Kong many years ago. Very captivating. Good reminder to
| celebrate a life well lived by rediscovering his beautiful
| artwork.
| ok_computer wrote:
| Alva Noto + Sakamoto Insen is one of my favorite ambient
| albums. I have the insen & utp_ dvds. I'd have loved to see
| those concerts live.
|
| Async was solid. He was next level in writing and producing.
|
| Sakamoto's music will be missed. He was one of the greats.
|
| Logic moon:
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| https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BTaAs8OdvX4
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| Solari:
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| https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v2Okyb-2jLo
|
| & some moog ad where his off the cuff work sounds huge and both
| discordant and melodic simultaneously. He's a legend.
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| https://youtu.be/wdhzVFZlKsM?t=886
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| Rip
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| Edit: last one
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| Monomom from Two where they played in Sydney
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| https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JaEyh-Y42Dc
| jacquesm wrote:
| Wow... thank you for posting this.
| JohnBooty wrote:
| I never see his soundtrack for Aile de Honneamise / Wings of
| Honneamise / Royal Space Force talked about.
|
| I really think it's one of his best!
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvgKK67WiLY
| pacomerh wrote:
| Truly admire Sakamoto's work, a big influence in my life. From
| Yellow Magic Orchestra to all his solo career. RIP
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWI5aVKvkCg
| amelius wrote:
| The advertisements on this page are extra annoying, given the
| topic. The industry has no moral code.
| jacquesm wrote:
| Oh that sucks. Only 71... I was listening to Merry Christmas Mr.
| Lawrence just yesterday in the car. Amazing music and a pretty
| good movie too, if you have the stomach for it.
|
| https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085933/
|
| More and more of my musical heroes are dying and I'm well aware
| of the fact that they aren't all that far ahead of me.
| hoherd wrote:
| I had heard him here and there, but the first time I really
| started paying attention to him was the Zero Landmine[1] project.
| After that I watched him alongside David Bowie in Merry Christmas
| Mr. Lawrence[2] and realized he was the creator of that famous
| melody. After that I was hooked. Like others in this thread I
| really love his collaborations with Alva Noto, especially By This
| River[3]. I'm sad he's gone, but I'm happy we will always have
| the great things he created.
|
| 1. https://youtu.be/_CQXI01usj0
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| 2. https://youtu.be/AALrrgEOlvU?t=119
|
| 3. https://youtu.be/rTv8m8vjjTk
| rado wrote:
| He agreed to act in the film after they let him compose the
| music. It turned out well. RIP sensei
| xdavidliu wrote:
| My favorite Sakamoto piece is Bolerish, and obvious homage to
| Ravel's Bolero; from the soundtrack of the little-known film
| "Femme Fatale"
| FpUser wrote:
| One of my favorite composers. RIP.
| daviddaviddavid wrote:
| Just want to share a couple great works by Sakamoto. I'm a big
| fan. One of my favorite bossa nova albums is A Day In New York by
| Morelenbaum/Sakamoto. Here's Desafinado from that album:
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rtdR9WkOOY
|
| And his early synth-y stuff is just so hip. Thousand Knives of
| Ryuichi Sakamoto (1978) is some badass stuff.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGo7n6CMCcE
| Aco- wrote:
| Couldn't agree more with this comment. I came here to share
| these, too. Some of his best work, imo.
|
| Here's the full album ("Casa") for those interested:
| https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kD_LK3RoPwL6UNzGT2...
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