[HN Gopher] Show HN: A Google Reader-inspired RSS reader
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       Show HN: A Google Reader-inspired RSS reader
        
       Author : khet
       Score  : 61 points
       Date   : 2023-04-01 18:57 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | xxdesmus wrote:
       | Self hosting option? Looks great, but I'd rather avoid a SaaS
       | service if possible.
        
         | khet wrote:
         | OP here: I'm considering it. Can you email me please? (email in
         | profile)
         | 
         | Would love to figure out a way I can work out a self hosted
         | version for those who want it, given there is enough interest
         | in it. This goes to anyone else who's interested in self
         | hosting, please email me! Thanks!
        
           | djbusby wrote:
           | Could just throw it in docker and let folk try their best.
           | Some projects that's their only supported self-hosting
           | option.
        
       | xpil wrote:
       | I was a heavy Google Reader user.
       | 
       | When it disappeared, I switched to NewsBlur.
       | 
       | NewsBlur is great but it lacks one particular feature: an RSS
       | feed for a folder of blogs. (or a category of blogs, potato -
       | potahto)
       | 
       | So I switched to self-hosted FreshRSS.
       | 
       | It has all the features I want (plus, unlike NewsBlur, it's free)
       | but it is Docker-based and I am already like 10 versions behind
       | and I am too lazy/scared to learn how to upgrade it without
       | destroying the Universe.
       | 
       | BoredReading has a fantastic UI and I absolutely love the
       | approach and organization of feeds. Key shortcuts are cool, too.
       | 
       | If there is ever a self-hosted version that I can feed with my
       | own stuff from scratch (ideally via an OPML file), I'd go for it
       | immediately.
        
         | arepublicadoceu wrote:
         | > but it is Docker-based and I am already like 10 versions
         | behind and I am too lazy/scared to learn how to upgrade it
         | without destroying the Universe.
         | 
         | You should be scared, the other day I messed a completely
         | functioning miniflux docker by upgrading it. It's been so long
         | since I set it all up that I lost the incantation necessary for
         | the setup or the will to look it up, just went ahead and I'm
         | using newsblur again. Sigh.
         | 
         | I'm getting old and loosing the will/patience to selfhost.
        
           | thunderbong wrote:
           | I've faced this before. Ever since I've always preferred
           | using a docker compose file so that all those myriad
           | configurations get saved correctly.
        
       | stanislavb wrote:
       | For those interested in "alternative" RSS Readers, I'd welcome
       | you giving a go to my opinionated RSS (not only) reader -
       | https://lenns.io. It supports tracking articles by headlines in
       | those cases when a blog or a website doesn't support RSS. Plus a
       | few other goodies, like assigning priorities to your feeds (and
       | topics) and limiting the number of posts per source.
       | 
       | Enjoy.
        
         | paulirish wrote:
         | I'm interested.. but is it possible to show a demo experience
         | so I can get a taste before registering?
        
       | sys_64738 wrote:
       | When Google killed Reader I stopped trusting them at that point
       | as I realized they'd kill everything to maintain control. I hate
       | GOOG nowadays and hope they become less influential on the
       | internet.
        
         | matthewfcarlson wrote:
         | Granted, the audience here is a little skewed but I feel like
         | the death of reader generated significant mistrust that I'm not
         | sure google expected.
        
           | fiddlerwoaroof wrote:
           | Yeah, my impression at the time was that programmers and
           | tech-related media turned against Google basically overnight
           | when Reader was killed. I think the importance of Reader
           | wasn't "everybody used it" but "the people in a position to
           | influence the public perception of Google used it".
        
           | ukuuru wrote:
           | I believe it is about the audience, they are very casual
           | about killing products. The users of the Reader was people
           | with interest and influence in technology. Killing a product
           | that is utilized by the people with the higher influence
           | created no good.
        
       | russellbeattie wrote:
       | I actually saw this submission via Inoreader. It's got everything
       | I want and need in a news reader. Been using it for years now and
       | there's little I'd change about it. Each person has their own
       | preferences, of course, but I recommend it highly.
        
         | roldie wrote:
         | Another +1 for Inoreader. So many great features
        
           | stereoradonc wrote:
           | And yet another ++1 for Inoreader. I don't find the need to
           | consider the "alternatives"
        
         | Euphorbium wrote:
         | Google reader had to die, so the inoreader could thrive. It is
         | so good.
        
       | billconan wrote:
       | I like it, but I hope
       | 
       | it can have a shortcut to dismiss a read article.
       | 
       | it has a dark mode.
        
       | sp332 wrote:
       | I saw the title and thought "eh, I've seen RSS readers before".
       | But darn if that isn't a _comfortable_ interface to look at.
        
         | imbnwa wrote:
         | Haven't seen well-though-out information density like this in a
         | minute
        
       | 1bent wrote:
       | When Google ditched Reader, they told me how to export my OPML,
       | so I did, and vowed to never again depend on a cloud service for
       | something I could do with a local client app. I've moved from one
       | to another over the years. At the moment I'm using Feeder on
       | Android.
       | 
       | Likewise when they dropped Listen for podcasts, currently I'm on
       | Antennapod. If I can get an app from f-droid, I prefer it.
       | 
       | I can live with backing up my OPML files whenever I add a blog or
       | podcast, and having no web server for desktop use or tracking
       | read/unread progress; I just only consume from my primary phone.
        
         | croutonwagon wrote:
         | I had a similar sentiment. I did briefly use feedly until they
         | started messing with their login screens some time back.
         | 
         | See, I had a local feedly login (with randomized password etc)
         | but they Sussed out it was a google workspace enabled
         | account/domain and would constantly try to redirect me to
         | googles oath.
         | 
         | I moved to miniflux and love it. Easy to manage and super
         | lightweight.
         | 
         | The only "feature" I wish it had was a "mark all items older
         | than 1 day as read".
         | 
         | You can mark all as read. And you can inverse your sort date
         | and expand how many articles are paginated to mark large swaths
         | as read. But a simple button to do some cleaning if I hadn't
         | read feeds in a week (and likely wouldn't care for week old
         | content) would be great.
         | 
         | Still is amazing overall and even that is a nitpick. In fact I
         | donated a bit to the maintainer just this month.
        
           | flkiwi wrote:
           | miniflux is great.
           | 
           | I'm hesitant to ask for more features to a lightweight,
           | stable RSS service, but it would be super-nice to be able to
           | enter a youtube username (for example) and have it build a
           | feed from it, as Google is, at best, wildly inconsistent
           | about providing youtube RSS feeds. Essentially baked-in
           | rsshub functionality. But I'm fine running rsshub in
           | parallel.
        
             | croutonwagon wrote:
             | > I'm hesitant to ask for more features to a lightweight,
             | stable RSS service,
             | 
             | Agree entirely. Which is why I never bothered to even ask
             | the dev about my "nitpick".
             | 
             | I did try a few git repos that would do similar, but they
             | were based on old builds of ruby and well, it didn't go too
             | well (and I'm not a Ruby on Rails person).
             | 
             | That said I will just periodically purge all reads, and
             | history, and refresh all feeds in background to keep it
             | running smooth.
             | 
             | It's actually how I came to this very thread.
             | 
             | Re: YouTube, have you tried putting in a channel URL?
             | Miniflux is great at finding rss feeds from indirect urls.
             | But I have noticed rss is increasingly being stripped from
             | sites, probably in an attempt to drive actual traffic
             | stats. I usually try to visit the external link for some
             | sites to give them the traffic/hits. Nevertheless some of
             | my favorite feeds like TalkingPoints Memo and The Drive
             | have completely stripped RSS off their site, which is a
             | shame.
        
       | fiddlerwoaroof wrote:
       | This is cool, but I'm a bit wary of closed source tools like this
       | ever since Google Reader shut down. Is it possible to self-host
       | this?
        
         | khet wrote:
         | If you could email me, I'm trying to see if self-hosting is
         | doable. Thanks! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35404958
        
       | wslh wrote:
       | What had Google Reader that was amazing and no RSS existing today
       | has is feed history: when you added a blog to Google Reader you
       | could traverse the feed as if you added it from the beginning of
       | the blog (intersection with the born of Google Reader).
       | 
       | BTW, I wrote something along the topic above in an article from
       | 2011 [1].
       | 
       | [1] Extraction of Main Text Content Using the Google Reader
       | NoAPI: http://blog.databigbang.com/extraction-of-main-text-
       | content/
        
         | qbasic_forever wrote:
         | I forgot that and you're totally right. It was awesome to
         | scroll (and search!) through a feed's entire history. Ugh it
         | makes me so mad Google got rid of all that for nothing.
        
         | voytec wrote:
         | > no RSS existing today
         | 
         | Some sites are generating feeds with links to all articles, not
         | just newest ones. But mostly smaller, personal blogs.
        
         | 1bent wrote:
         | At the time they shut down Listen, some podcasts (e.g. Car
         | Talk) were closing their back episodes and charging money for
         | them; I figured that's why Google decided to stop the service.
        
           | dirtyid wrote:
           | Did Listen not support password protected feeds? I remember a
           | solid 2-3 years after Listen was killed (2012-2015) where
           | Android had no passable podcast player.
        
         | dirtyid wrote:
         | Pretty sure Feedly supports feed history, takes some time to
         | pull archive onto their servers on obscure feeds though.
        
       | gareve wrote:
       | Hug of Death?
        
         | khet wrote:
         | OP Here, I think so. Digging into why it's taking so long to
         | load.
        
           | whoibrar wrote:
           | I got 501 Gateway, if that helps
        
       | EvanAnderson wrote:
       | A shout out for Tiny Tiny RSS[1] for a self-hosted feed reader. I
       | used a heavily modified fork from years ago but the current
       | version looks pretty good.
       | 
       | (I made a couple of really simple contributions back in the day
       | but decided maintaining my own fork was the easy path. The
       | maintainer has a reputation for being a bit prickly to deal with.
       | He wasn't uncivil or anything, but it was clearly _his_ project
       | and that 's just fine.)
       | 
       | [1] https://tt-rss.org/
        
       | AlbertCory wrote:
       | I'm living with Feedly. Reluctantly. I don't think it's very
       | sticky and I'd happily switch to this thing (which is giving me
       | 504 Gateway Time-out right now) if it's any better.
        
         | petercooper wrote:
         | Have a quick look at Feedbin. I've been using it for a few
         | years now and it's the most Reader-ish of the options I've
         | found so far. Feedly is too algorithm-y for me.
        
         | Arainach wrote:
         | What would make an RSS reader sticky? If all you want is an
         | ordered list there aren't many features to keep you attached.
         | 
         | I've been using Feedly since Reader shut down and it's been
         | fine. Every time I want to add a new feed via URL I feel it's
         | needlessly difficult and suspect they may have moved my cheese
         | once again, but for reading the feeds I'm subscribed to it
         | works great.
        
           | AlbertCory wrote:
           | > What would make an RSS reader sticky?
           | 
           | Exactly: nothing. You can export your feeds and import them
           | somewhere else.
           | 
           | Ditto on adding new feeds. I can never remember how to do it,
           | and if I do, it doesn't work anymore.
        
         | CharlesW wrote:
         | > _I 'm living with Feedly. Reluctantly._
         | 
         | FYI, there are a bunch of apps that sync with Feedly and that
         | you can use as an alternate front end. NetNewsWire (Mac, iOS)
         | is one example that's worth checking out, but there are many
         | options that cover every OS.
        
         | seba_dos1 wrote:
         | I've been using a self-hosted CommaFeed instance for many many
         | years now and it filled a Google Reader-shaped hole in my
         | reading habits perfectly.
        
         | dirtyid wrote:
         | Stuck in feedly once I started adding notes.
         | 
         | Also very few readers has twitter/reddit support.
        
         | morsch wrote:
         | I tried Feedly for a couple of days, then I switched to Feeder
         | and haven't looked back. Zero dependency on any central
         | service, no user accounts, no upsell, no algorithms. I don't
         | need any synchronization features, though apparently Feeder now
         | has that. You're probably on iOS in which case this is no help
         | to you.
         | 
         | On a sidenote, I was shocked to find that basically all sites I
         | read still have RSS feeds.
        
           | AlbertCory wrote:
           | tnx. No, no IOS. I have Feedly on both macOS and Android, and
           | it works fine. But I'm not a Feedly Fanboy.
           | 
           | RSS was a great idea, and I think reports of its death are
           | greatly exaggerated.
        
       | orcul wrote:
       | My favorite web based rss reader https://bazqux.com/
        
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