[HN Gopher] This is a Chord (2016)
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This is a Chord (2016)
Author : brudgers
Score : 50 points
Date : 2023-03-30 13:48 UTC (9 hours ago)
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| thanatropism wrote:
| Am-E-G would have been ii-V-I, the everpresent faux-jazz
| progression (also common in actual jazz of a certain vintage).
| ghostpepper wrote:
| Modern jazz doesn't use ii-V-I?
| tunesmith wrote:
| That would be Am-D-G. This one is probably more like A major
| with a flat seven since G major has two tones in common with
| the ii.
| veganjay wrote:
| I first saw this in Sniffing Glue magazine - today I learned it
| first appeared in Sideburn.
| veganjay wrote:
| Reminds me of this poster:
|
| http://www.southendpunk.com/html/damnadv.html
|
| "The Damned can now play three chords. The Adverts can play one.
| Hear all four of them at..."
| raincole wrote:
| It's probably the first time I see a tumblr post on HN.
| phkahler wrote:
| Why didn't they put DOTs BETWEEN the frets?!? Arrrrrrgh!
| brudgers wrote:
| This is from the era when guitar tab was not so
| ubiquitous...and I seem to remember a lot of the chords in pop
| song books printed with dots on the fret 45 years ago.
|
| But it has been awhile.
| DonaldFisk wrote:
| I have music books I bought in the 1970s, and those all have
| dots behind the frets.
| olnluis wrote:
| You'd use a lined fretless bass this way, so it might have been
| a lined fretless guitar on that drawing!
|
| Also, when you're pressing a fret, the pitch isn't coming from
| where you have your finger, but from the following fret which
| is making contact with the string. You can actually press the
| actual fret instead of the area between the fret and the one
| before it, and it should sound the same.
|
| Now if the person that drew this knew that, I don't know.
| bmelton wrote:
| I know it's not the convention, but I almost prefer it this
| way.
|
| As someone who is self-taught (read: bad) on guitar, I spent
| literally years playing songs and suffering hand cramps before
| realizing that it takes a lot less pressure to fret the note
| closer to the fret.
|
| All because I initially learned on tablature, and tablature
| typically shows it "wrong." (or I read it wrong for a long time
| -- feel free to blame me as much as you deem appropriate if you
| are fond of tabs)
| otikik wrote:
| First draw two ovals.
|
| Then draw the rest of the owl.
| tylerFowler wrote:
| > Why are the markings on the frets and not in between them?
|
| Those aren't frets, those be strings.
| d23 wrote:
| I'm not sure how to word this, but he's not talking about the
| strings, he's talking about the frets. Usually these diagrams
| have the marking where the finger goes, not where the string
| hits the fret.
| sambapa wrote:
| That's quite an unusual collection of chords, maybe because B
| major chord is too hard for beginners. I-bIII-IV is some Bela
| Bartok-level shit.
| cramjabsyn wrote:
| I guess D would make more sense than E, but also G E A sound
| great in a progression
| p_j_w wrote:
| >I guess D would make more sense than E
|
| Just learning to play the guitar myself and at least
| personally, have found D to be a pain in the ass of a chord
| shape. I can switch between A, E, and G all day long, but
| throw a D in there and I have to slow down and be a little
| more intentional. Muscle memory will happen, but for the
| combination of my brain and that shape, it happens more
| slowly. I don't think I'm the only one, either, because it
| was called out specifically by the guy who did the video
| lessons I'm using.
| ghostpepper wrote:
| Are you playing the open D in the "bar plus one finger"
| style or the "3 individual fingers" style?
| naet wrote:
| These are more or less the three easiest open guitar chords for
| a beginner to learn, all major, so not very unusual IMO.
|
| The roots fall on a pentatonic scale which works well with
| basic rock music (see the referenced TNT song by AC/DC).
| sambapa wrote:
| Idk. C, am, F and G are as easy, if not easier, and you can
| play with them a nice I-IV-vi-V instead of this modal
| interchange shit.
| qzervaas wrote:
| Maybe swap F for Em. Beginners aren't (successfully)
| playing F, no matter which variation.
| adrianmonk wrote:
| Just sing an E blues scale over an E G A G progression. Sing a
| G over that E, and it's practically an E7#9.
|
| Maybe change your E and A to E7 and A7 if you feel like it.
| They're easier for beginner guitarists to play anyway.
| max182 wrote:
| I think this is a good way of approaching life. Learn the
| absolute basics, then start making things.
|
| Trying to learn everything first will keep you in the consumer
| mindset. Be a producer.
| grensley wrote:
| I really like this explanation from Ira Glass on the gap
| between taste and talent and how you just need to do a ton of
| work to fight through it.
|
| https://vimeo.com/85040589
| max182 wrote:
| This is amazing. Thank you.
| jrm4 wrote:
| Didn't have to click to remember this; no idea from anything
| that wasn't a book has stuck with me like this has, it's
| soooo good.
| klodolph wrote:
| I saw a post recently--a musician was asking for advice about
| how to set up some super-complicated one-person performance
| rig. They wanted guitar, bass, keyboard, synths, amps & pedals,
| mic for singing, etc. This would be for their first live
| performance, or something like that.
|
| It's so tempting to do a ton of prep and try to blow people
| away. I think it's a flavor of procrastination or perfectionism
| that gets in the way of your real goals.
| tyingq wrote:
| Cam Cole is my favorite in the "one man band" niche. He
| doesn't use that many instruments, and maybe isn't the most
| talented of the lot technically. But he's one of the few
| where I liked the songs just for the song itself, without
| caring it was a one-man-band setup.
| https://youtu.be/XnHT1nGJt78
| spudlyo wrote:
| Be a producer![0]
|
| [0] https://youtu.be/a_0YDe1yZnY?t=36
| r_transpose_p wrote:
| Music aside, I believe the first place I saw a copy of this old
| zine illustration was in the book "Getting Started with Arduino"
| by Massimo Banzi (page 10 if you're curious :
| https://www.amazon.com/Getting-Started-Arduino-Electronics-P... )
|
| Obviously the authors of the Arduino book were reprinting it
| because they'd seen it somewhere else, where, in turn, it had
| been copied because someone else had seen it in another source,
| etc.
|
| But I thought it was extremely poetically true to put that
| illustration in the Arduino book. That made sense to me.
|
| Now form a band!
| jppope wrote:
| Love this... and I agree with it
| j-kent wrote:
| those X marks are on the frets, they should be in the middle
| between the frets...
| klodolph wrote:
| This is fine. The fret is the important part, it's the part you
| want to communicate, the space between the frets is just where
| you touch the strings if you want a clear sound, and your
| guitar is fretted. You can place your fingers directly on the
| frets, it just makes a different sound.
| cramjabsyn wrote:
| "One chord is fine. Two chords are pushing it. Three chords and
| you're into jazz." -Lou Reed
| michaelcampbell wrote:
| That reminds me of another yarn:
|
| Rock Music: 3 chords played to 1000 people
|
| Jazz Music: 1000 chords played to 3 people
| cramjabsyn wrote:
| Modern indie music: three 7th chords and a chorus pedal
| played for 250 people
| Blackthorn wrote:
| The power of writing your music for people vs writing your
| music for musicians.
| marcodiego wrote:
| I play the classical guitar. My version for this line is: If
| you are a pop musician, you play a few chords for a hundred
| people; If you are a jazz player, you play hundreds chords
| for a few people; If you are a classical guitar player, you
| play thousands of notes for yourself.
| andrei_says_ wrote:
| And then someone like Jacob Collier comes along and we don't
| know what to say anymore because language just does not apply
| to such a phenomenon.
| arrakeen wrote:
| had to look this guy up and watched the video for "All
| Night Long". with audio only, this is pretty much just a
| sample-heavy jazz-pop cover that would be indistinguishable
| from just a regular multi-track recording.
|
| i'm assuming what makes him special is his video approach
| where all the "samples" are shown as video clips of the
| musicians performing them. i'd probably describe the
| approach as "an actually talented version of pomplamoose"
|
| not really my thing, but definitely interesting. thanks for
| the mini rabbithole
| jrajav wrote:
| Jacob Collier won a grammy for each of his first four
| albums, has a massive following, is known for pushing the
| boundaries of practical application of music theory, and
| is well respected by musicians of every kind. There's a
| bit more to what makes him special than what can be
| reduced to a single gimmick or reductive comparison.
| sambapa wrote:
| He leaves me totally cold. IMO he's very unmusical, like
| a guitar shredder but 100000x worse.
| medler wrote:
| Collier has an impressive knowledge of music theory but
| for me music is about emotion and expression, and I've
| never been able to find much of either in his
| compositions or performances. Just my 2 cents.
| tasty_freeze wrote:
| I'm with you -- I find his dozen layer vocals
| unenjoyable. However, it can play many instruments really
| well. Here is a video from a jazz trio rehearsal though
| that I keep coming back to every few months simply
| because I enjoy the sausage being made. Keep in mind he
| was 19 or so at the time.
|
| Anacona: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIaL4Q1LnuA
| mtinkerhess wrote:
| Jacob Collier is a legit next level musician. He does a
| lot of overdubbing of himself but he does other styles
| also. His recordings like Moon River and Flintstones are
| incredible both in terms of arrangement and performance.
| In a very different style, his Piano Ballads record is
| great, Let it Be is great on that one.
|
| Totally understand if none if it is your style!
| Slow_Hand wrote:
| Seconded, regarding his cover of 'Moon River'. The
| harmony in the final three minutes is out of this world.
|
| Though I wouldn't recommend watching the music video.
| It's a bit corny and distracting.
| jancsika wrote:
| That's a fine motto for land-based music making.
|
| But with anything less than three chords you cannot generate
| sufficient lift to even get off the ground.
| neonscribe wrote:
| Hot take: the third chord should be D, not G.
| grensley wrote:
| The real punk rock thing is: "here's a power chord, slide it
| around, NOW FORM A BAND"
| Hamuko wrote:
| I thought punk rock was "here's a guitar, play it loud".
| gaudat wrote:
| Like 0-4-5, 0-4-6-5, 0-4-5-4-0? It may be off by a step or two,
| it has been years since I last touched a fretboard.
| Eavolution wrote:
| 0-3-5, 0-3-6-5, 0-3-5-3-0
| joduplessis wrote:
| Bootstrap for life, yo.
|
| Side-note: don't start a band with those chords.
| danray wrote:
| Makes me think of the second verse of "Joyride," from one of
| Built to Spill's first, punkier albums.
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gncB-kQUUgQ&t=72s
|
| "This part of the song is called the second verse
|
| Sounds just like the first verse but with different words
|
| But all it has is three chords and they are A D E and D
|
| There are A D and E and D
|
| There goes the Dm D A E D"
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