[HN Gopher] JWST gets best view yet of planet in hotly pursued s...
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       JWST gets best view yet of planet in hotly pursued star system
        
       Author : Brajeshwar
       Score  : 31 points
       Date   : 2023-03-28 15:40 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.nature.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.nature.com)
        
       | ppaattrriicckk wrote:
       | In case I'm not the only one a tad confused about this (awkward)
       | sentence:
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       | > JWST looked at TRAPPIST-1 in mid-infrared wavelengths of light
       | -- 20 times redder than the human eye can see
       | 
       | What's referred to here, in terms of wavelengths, is the range
       | 4.9 to 27.9 mm according to https://jwst-docs.stsci.edu/jwst-mid-
       | infrared-instrument. The longest human eyes can see is around
       | 0.75 mm, so I guess that's where the notion of "20 times redder"
       | comes from
        
         | blincoln wrote:
         | Thank you. It was an extremely confusing statement.
         | 
         | I would have gone with something like "a wavelength about 7 to
         | 40 times longer than the longest wavelength human eyes can
         | perceive", or "longer wavelengths than a night vision scope
         | picks up, but shorter than most thermal imagers capture or
         | microwave ovens emit". But really, it might make more sense to
         | have just omitted everything after "mid-infrared wavelengths of
         | light". Kind of like the unnecessary use earlier in the article
         | of both parsecs and light-years. Just go with light-years IMO.
        
       | beastman82 wrote:
       | sadly that view is not shared with us via this article
        
         | ben7799 wrote:
         | "Article I wrote but copied from somewhere else and left out
         | most of the important information, images, video, etc.. and
         | didn't link to the canonical source and then jumped to some
         | conclusions or put a spin on it" is like a bread and butter
         | staple of web journalism. Always frustrating, and so many
         | publications have actively switched to making almost all their
         | stories fit into that model.
        
         | kloch wrote:
         | To ease the disappointment, here's an unrelated jwst image that
         | was released today: https://esawebb.org/images/potm2303a/
        
           | Ancalagon wrote:
           | The lensing in that is just so incredible.
        
           | adriand wrote:
           | Awesome! This video is also amazing:
           | https://esawebb.org/videos/potm2303b/
        
         | bdg wrote:
         | I suspect it's a measurement and not a photo. Something they
         | could put on a chart but that's about it.
         | 
         | There's interesting ideas for imaging exo-planets that involve
         | a fleet of satellites past pluto that use the gravity lens of
         | the sun as their lens. A system like that could get an image of
         | an exo-planet.
        
           | Galaxeblaffer wrote:
           | good old Space Time has a pretty good video on this
           | https://youtu.be/4d0EGIt1SPc and it might even be possible
           | and more feasible to use planets https://youtu.be/F9S21HqfNR0
           | and even earth https://youtu.be/jgOTZe07eHA as lenses
        
           | brianherbert wrote:
           | This intrigued me so I found an article describing this idea:
           | https://news.stanford.edu/press-
           | releases/2022/05/02/gravity-...
        
         | colechristensen wrote:
         | Which is really all I want to see. A picture and a paragraph
         | describing it.
        
       | remarkEon wrote:
       | Whenever these articles come up that talk about sister earths the
       | only thing I'm really interested in is how far away it is, so
       | here you go:
       | 
       | > Researchers have been excited to use the new telescope to
       | explore it and its six siblings, which are all roughly the size
       | of Earth and which orbit a star 12 parsecs (39 light years) from
       | Earth.
        
         | dekhn wrote:
         | I guess if you could get a probe up to 0.1c (project orion),
         | that's only 390 + 39 years to get direct images from within the
         | solar system. But in 390 + 39 years, I assume imaging from our
         | own solar system will have gotten significantly better making
         | direct imaging possibly unnecessary.
        
           | bdg wrote:
           | You might also enjoy: "the wait calculation".
        
           | katsura wrote:
           | The Breakthrough Starshot initiative plans to travel at 20%
           | of the speed of light, so that could shorten the time
           | necessary to get there.
           | 
           | https://www.space.com/laser-sail-centering-breakthrough-
           | star...
        
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