[HN Gopher] The FBI's Contract to Buy Mass Internet Data
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The FBI's Contract to Buy Mass Internet Data
Author : leotravis10
Score : 116 points
Date : 2023-03-27 19:34 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| advisedwang wrote:
| Which ISPs are giving our traffic data to Team Cymru? We need
| them named and shamed.
| soupfordummies wrote:
| Absolutely agree. However, even then, what am I gonna do, go to
| the ONE other alternative in my neighborhood?
| greyface- wrote:
| The document:
| https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23722785/fbi-team-cym...
| worrycue wrote:
| I wonder if this will be the silver lining of AI-generated spam.
| Online information might plummet in value due to reduced signal-
| noise ratio. People will become harder to read and manipulate.
| ShamelessC wrote:
| People don't care enough for it to matter.
| costco wrote:
| It's only $35k a month? I think we can all assume that basically
| any government has this now.
| kube-system wrote:
| Or criminal group, blackmailers and harassers, private industry
| looking to extract more money from you, etc.
| Syonyk wrote:
| Of course they did. And they'll keep doing it, because they can.
| And because knowledge like that is power, and they like power.
|
| At this point, you can safely assume that anything muttered by a
| "tin foil hat nutter" sort in about 2005-2010 about the internet,
| computers, three letter agencies, and the like is correct. It's
| sure heading in that direction.
| mattpallissard wrote:
| > At this point, you can safely assume that anything muttered
| by a "tin foil hat nutter" sort in about 2005-2010 about the
| internet, computers, three letter agencies, and the like is
| correct.
|
| As one of the few software/tech guys for hundreds of miles I
| get a lot of "I suspect they're doing X, but that's probably
| not even possible". In regards to BigBrother/BigCo.
|
| I correct them all. Not possible, probable.
| LesZedCB wrote:
| good thing everything is hidden cleverly behind this
| impenetrable username!
| fallingknife wrote:
| It's time to think about extending certain constitutional
| restrictions to corporations. It's becoming all to common that
| the government contracts out its rights violations to the private
| sector.
| [deleted]
| DueDilligence wrote:
| [dead]
| [deleted]
| cronix wrote:
| Oh, you mean ISP's sell data to whoever has money to buy it,
| including the FBI.
| justapassenger wrote:
| "Mass Internet Data" and $35k per month?
|
| Anyone who dealt with government contracts and/or internet knows
| that those 2 statements don't align in any way. This data has to
| be extremely, extremely, extremely limited and/or useless.
| spydum wrote:
| I have had access to this type of data before commercially for
| purpose. It's useful for knowing "who" has established
| connections to "who", but at just an IP level. Powerful for
| combining with other analysis on either the sender or receiver.
| You won't know what they said, but you know what ports they
| used.
|
| So if I see a sudden spike in IP addresses geocoded as being in
| the United States, and the destination is an unusual but
| specific port hosted in Belarus, it might be worth looking at a
| new C2 malware.
| justapassenger wrote:
| Yeah, I know those types of datasets.
|
| But did you see data, sold for $35k, to a government? I
| didn't, but I'm fairly confident in assuming it doesn't have
| much in it.
| xfitm3 wrote:
| Ah yes, at my company many years ago we sold data to law
| enforcement when they didn't have a warrant but had a case
| someone really wanted to pursue. They were happy to pay quite
| high prices, and on a semi regular basis because we were a large
| "small business" that handled a lot of data.
|
| We'd allow them to come in and image disks, span ports, modify
| software, you name it.
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