[HN Gopher] CNBC just deleted 5 pages showing CD5 data for banks...
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CNBC just deleted 5 pages showing CD5 data for banks including JPM
and BAC
CNBC just deleted 5 pages showing the current and historical 5 year
Credit Default Swaps for: - JPMorgan, deleted URL:
https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/JPMCD5 - Bank of America, deleted URL:
https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/BACCD5 - PNC, deleted URL:
https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/PNCCD5 - Truist Financial, deleted
URL: https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/TFCCD5 - Wells Fargo, deleted
URL: https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/WFCCD5 Not deleted: Goldman Sachs
https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/GSCD5, Deutsche Bank
https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/DBCD5 . You can easily use archive.org
to check for yourself example: https://web.archive.org/web/20221009
203204/https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/BACCD5 This might not seem like
a big thing, but it is! This was one of the very few sources were
you could see current credit default swaps data online. I would
love to get an explanation from CNBC. EDIT: I was actively
crawling the pages in question, it did work until at least Friday,
24 March 2023 23:55:35 after that the crawling paused for the
weekend as the markets are closed. So this change occurred during
the weekend.
Author : janmo
Score : 67 points
Date : 2023-03-26 17:56 UTC (5 hours ago)
| ricardobayes wrote:
| Might be a bug or a data issue, especially given some are still
| visible.
| lobstersammich wrote:
| I have not read the paper below yet, but it seems germane to any
| discussion of the source(s) of credit default swap data:
|
| "Are all Credit Default Swap Databases Equal?"
| https://www.cnmv.es/DocPortal/Publicaciones/MONOGRAFIAS/DT44...
|
| I've been using this resource for some time to track the five-
| year CDS rates of many North American and European banks:
| https://www.derivateverband.de/ENG/Transparency/Credit-Defau...
|
| At the bottom of the chart/table you can see (a) the source of
| the data points as well as (b) the last updated date. For the
| page today the text reads as follows, so the data was last
| updated on Friday, the 24th of March:
|
| > Source: CMA, part of S&P Capital IQ, Copyright (c) 2013, Credit
| Market Analysis Limited. All rights reserved. Date: 24.03.2023
| janmo wrote:
| Very good source, thank you
| wmf wrote:
| I don't understand this stuff but I have seen an argument that
| these graphs are spreading FUD.
| salawat wrote:
| No, they aren't, they are just data.
|
| The problem is the powers that be are heavily invested in
| keeping the cattle from panicing or paying attention to the
| house of cards we call an economy.
|
| I assure you; perception management is never benign. It's a
| reason why in common law, adverse inference is a thing.
|
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adverse_inference
| janmo wrote:
| So they are self-censoring themselves?
| wmf wrote:
| I don't know if they are or not, but it's an obvious way to
| disrupt a harmful information cascade.
| snake_doc wrote:
| Just checked Refinitiv (which is CNBC's source), they are all
| there...
|
| It's not free to calculate marketing pricing you know... Pay for
| it...
| janmo wrote:
| That's my point, the broad public hasn't access to a Bloomberg
| Terminal or Refinitv. That's why if the CNBC data is gone, then
| it will become very hard to check.
|
| If you search something like "JP Morgan credit default swap"
| CNBC was the only usable result.
| cinquemb wrote:
| Yeah, something similar happened with IHS markit after they
| got aquired by S&P global in 2022, all their CDX data went
| private.
|
| These types of things to me are warning signs.
| jonas-w wrote:
| PNC seems to be up again?
|
| Edit: it showed 82, after clicking on the link a second time it
| still is missing?? weird
| spaceman_2020 wrote:
| Isn't this public information anywy?
| pestatije wrote:
| Weird they didn't delete Deutsche Bank one, it's supposedly the
| next one to fall
| janmo wrote:
| I would love to know
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