[HN Gopher] Frequency Format Hypothesis
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       Frequency Format Hypothesis
        
       Author : Agraillo
       Score  : 40 points
       Date   : 2023-03-26 10:55 UTC (12 hours ago)
        
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       | smodad wrote:
       | Really? I've always been the opposite for some reason. I find it
       | easier to visualize 20% of a pie chart, or of a crowd, or a
       | length, etc. It's a lot harder for me to think about 1/5 of a
       | crowd or 1/5 of a length.
       | 
       | It's tangentially related to this, but I've seen posts on social
       | media over the years of how people visualize different kinds of
       | information. For example, some people think of the months of the
       | year in a vertical fashion, others horizontal.
       | 
       | I'm curious if this is something similar where some people find a
       | certain way of thinking of probability easier than others.
        
         | shadowofneptune wrote:
         | Think of it this way: if I said that 0.001 or 0.1% of people
         | had a certain congenital disease; that may seem like not many
         | people at all. Say it as 1 in every 1000 people, or about
         | 330,000 people in America, and it seems like a lot of people.
        
       | kevmo314 wrote:
       | That sounds a lot like prompt engineering for humans.
        
       | fastaguy88 wrote:
       | It's important to remember that a substantial fraction (at least
       | 20% -- 1 in 5 [0]) of the adult population is really
       | uncomfortable with percentages. Percentages are abstract, but it
       | is easy for me to think of 5 relatives and estimate how many can
       | do simple math.
       | 
       | [0] https://www.theguardian.com/education/2016/mar/07/a-fifth-
       | of...
        
         | tshaddox wrote:
         | That article is about adults being uncomfortable with both
         | fractions and percentages. Considering "20%" just means "20 in
         | 100," I doubt "1 in 5" is going to be much more comfortable for
         | these adults.
        
           | fastaguy88 wrote:
           | I think the point of that article (and the larger point about
           | math anxiety) is that many people do not realize that 20%
           | "just means" 20 in 100. And it probably gets worse for
           | percentages < 1%.
        
           | wirrbel wrote:
           | the information leaflets for medication are written here
           | (Germany) in case numbers and not in percentages, following a
           | "1 in X" scheme (1 in 100, 1 in 1000, 1 in 10000) which I
           | think kind of makes sense for inclusiveness, on the other
           | side I do think this way is almost as if providing values on
           | a logarithmic scale, due to the X in "1 in X" being given in
           | base-10 magnitudes.
           | 
           | I wonder if it would actually be more intuitive to use dice
           | for comparison. Like 1/36 would be the probability to roll
           | doubles of 6, 1/216 would be the probability to roll triples
           | of 6, etc. Rolling 6 dices to 6 would be 1/46656 and 7 dices
           | to 6 would be 1/279936, ...
           | 
           | At least my generation has played enough Yatzeeh to have a
           | feel for dice-throwing :-)
        
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