[HN Gopher] Odd Caliber
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       Odd Caliber
        
       Author : gmays
       Score  : 51 points
       Date   : 2023-03-25 18:34 UTC (1 days ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.trulyadventure.us)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.trulyadventure.us)
        
       | rediculous400 wrote:
       | [flagged]
        
         | _0ffh wrote:
         | What, no, this comment is a complete fiction!
         | 
         | The article is a kind of true crime story about a British
         | antique weapons enthusiast who sold weapons and self-made
         | ammunition to a guy who turned out to be supplying a criminal
         | street gang.
        
       | Gordonjcp wrote:
       | [flagged]
        
         | Brian_K_White wrote:
         | Or, all that happened was the guns in use went from being
         | standard and traceable to being obscure and untraceable. You
         | don't automatically get to decide who is sane and who is not
         | based on your religious beliefs.
        
           | Gordonjcp wrote:
           | I mean, we have had exactly *one* school shooting in 30
           | years, so by any measure I'd say it worked.
        
           | SideburnsOfDoom wrote:
           | This comment is meaningless unless it also discuses the
           | decrease in number of "the guns in use". Or lack of decrease,
           | but I don't think that's factual.
        
             | Brian_K_White wrote:
             | ...which are themselves also meaningless unless they also
             | factor yet other context like all kinds of other social and
             | economic factors, total population, population density,
             | possible translation to other crimes using other tools or
             | taking other forms, and other undesirable outcomes. It's
             | kind of like a form of externalizing costs. Maybe bathtub
             | suicides and protection racket shakedowns and stabbings
             | went up but if you only pick one number and say it went
             | down, or is less than someone else's while using absolute
             | numbers instead of percentages and in context,..
             | 
             | If you only care about one number and it's so important
             | that none of those other factors matter, then you shouldbe
             | advocating for universal drugged stupor, which would
             | garantee the lowest possible number of gun deaths. I don't
             | see how you can possibly place your own desire to have a
             | clear head and some sense of agency over yourself above the
             | life of even one innocent child.
        
       | upofadown wrote:
       | >Dr. Surdhar was sending and receiving the messages through
       | WhatsApp, which is semi-encrypted but, he would soon learn, not
       | impermeable.
       | 
       | ...
       | 
       | >Through the WhatsApp conversations found on Nosa's phone,
       | national investigators helped police collar Sundish Nazran, the
       | Burger Bar armorer. Sixteen more gang members were indicted,
       | jailed, and sentenced to more than a collective 200 years
       | imprisonment.
       | 
       | Yeah, the encryption doesn't help when you keep the messages in
       | an unencrypted form. If it is convenient for you to see the
       | archived messages then it is usually convenient for others to see
       | them as well.
        
       | InvaderFizz wrote:
       | Enjoyable read. It looks like the real mistake Paul made was
       | making his illicit sale bullets in the same way he made his
       | normal stock.
       | 
       | Of course, he could have also avoided any legal scrutiny by
       | himself being above board and only selling the bullets his
       | clients were legally authorized.
        
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