[HN Gopher] Long Covid Comes into the Light
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       Long Covid Comes into the Light
        
       Author : CharlesW
       Score  : 20 points
       Date   : 2023-03-20 20:39 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | rngname22 wrote:
       | I'll bet this is likely considered but,
       | 
       | "For instance, 407 of the COVID patients reported having
       | persistent concentration and memory problems at the end of the
       | first year, while 276 of the controls also did. That meant that
       | for every 10,000 people, only about 13 had cognitive difficulties
       | that were attributable specifically to COVID"
       | 
       | ^ is there a chance that a year later, these folks just got used
       | to their "new normal" level of memory and concentration, and
       | stopped feeling off?, and so reported lower levels of those
       | cognitive symptoms?
        
       | dagorenouf wrote:
       | Here's my experience with long covid:
       | 
       | - got infected in December 2021
       | 
       | - 10 days of fatigue and headaches, couldn't think clearly
       | 
       | - got better but had trouble breathing the following three months
       | and had to stop any intense physical activity
       | 
       | - during the whole year 2022, every time I got any slight immune
       | system challenge (catch a cold; have a short night sleep), the
       | breathing problems would come back and stay with me for 2-3 weeks
       | 
       | - in February 2023 it seemed to have went away. No breathing
       | problems for 4 months, yeepee!
       | 
       | - 2nd week of February and out of nowhere, I started feeling
       | tired, but had no other symptoms. So I spent the week taking it
       | easy and just working a less and sleeping a lot
       | 
       | - a week later, I went to get groceries and could feel my heart
       | pump heavily through my chest, almost fainted twice
       | 
       | - since then it got worse and now I can't walk, take the stairs
       | or even sit upright on a chair for more than a couple minutes,
       | else I risk fainting (and my heart beats like crazy the whole
       | time)
       | 
       | - spent the past 4 weeks working from bed. Can't drive; can't
       | walk more than 1 min; and can't sit upright
       | 
       | - I feel fatigued almost all the time and have the same symptoms
       | as when I had covid in 2021, symptoms I never had in my life
       | before
       | 
       | - I don't know if / when it will improve, doctor didn't find
       | anything
       | 
       | I don't know if it's because of long covid, the vaccine or just
       | bad luck but I'm positive I never had these kinds of symptoms
       | before catching covid in 2021. And now 2 years later I live with
       | a debilitating disease that makes me objectively disabled for
       | most things. I'm 33 and otherwise healthy. This is not a
       | hallucination.
        
         | terminatornet wrote:
         | i'm sorry you're dealing with this and I hope your symptoms
         | improve soon.
        
           | dagorenouf wrote:
           | Thanks! Looking at the bright side and grateful to be running
           | my own startup from a laptop, so at least I can still work.
           | Many others aren't as lucky
        
         | justinclift wrote:
         | > - since then it got worse and now I can't walk, take the
         | stairs or even sit upright on a chair for more than a couple
         | minutes, else I risk fainting (and my heart beats like crazy
         | the whole time)
         | 
         | As a super simple thought, if you take an iron supplement do
         | you reckon it might help at all?
         | 
         | Asking because when I occasionally get that, it generally means
         | I'm so low in iron that I need to supplement for a while. (Some
         | history of mild anaemia in the family, but nothing to worry
         | about in itself.)
         | 
         | Note, not thinking it'd be a solution here. More a workaround
         | that might help. :)
        
       | seydor wrote:
       | What's the reasoning behind trying to downplay long covid?
        
         | zamadatix wrote:
         | Based on the conclusion I think the author is positioning it
         | was (and still is) overhyped in reporting to be more alarming
         | than it turned out to be, which is a common complaint/issue to
         | take with news reporting.
        
         | stcroixx wrote:
         | If there is no way to test for it and having it makes one
         | eligible for disability payments, there's simply a high
         | potential for abuse.
        
         | Am4TIfIsER0ppos wrote:
         | Its an obvious lie you can spew when "think about grandma"
         | stops working.
        
         | batmaniam wrote:
         | It's a self-serving article by the corporate elites to get
         | people comfortable with the idea of returning to the office.
         | Some VP is gonna point to these types of articles and say covid
         | is no longer an issue, back to works guys.
         | 
         | Kinda how like Zuckerberg recently pointed to bogus 'reports'
         | on in-office workers being more productive than remote workers,
         | and then used it as an excuse to RTO. Except it's funnier in
         | that case since Meta is all about the metaverse and being
         | remote, so it's kinda ironic.
        
           | smackeyacky wrote:
           | I don't think that is ironic. I think it's a pretty damning
           | indictment of how useless Meta really is as a concept and a
           | product.
        
         | terminatornet wrote:
         | honestly, probably the same reason covid in general has been
         | downplayed: get people working and get people spending
         | 
         | once the vaccines became available to the general public in
         | early 2021, it was game over for any covid mitigations. At that
         | point, it had been about a year since worldwide lockdowns and
         | people were ready to get back to normal.
         | 
         | From then it was a slow trickle of ignoring the problem and
         | getting people to forget covid, in order:
         | 
         | - if you're vaccinated, you can't get or spread covid
         | 
         | - ok if you're vaccinated you can still get covid but it's
         | basically just a cold
         | 
         | - alright, you can still spread covid, but you're vaccinated so
         | not a big deal
         | 
         | - ok looks like there's some new variants of covid, but your
         | vaccine is still basically as effective
         | 
         | - ok look like there's another new variant and it doesn't
         | protect you as much as the original variant, but only
         | unvaccinated people die from covid
         | 
         | - well, looks like the elderly and immunocompromised aren't
         | protected well even with the vaccine, but whatever they can
         | wear masks
         | 
         | - alright, so it looks like repeat infections might cause
         | neurological and cardiac issues, but those people probably
         | weren't healthy.
         | 
         | you get the picture. I'm being hyperbolic here, but this stuff
         | happened over the course of 2-3 years, not overnight. All in
         | favor of trying to keep a status quo that doesn't exist
         | anymore.
        
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