[HN Gopher] My new hobby: finding public domain images that Gett...
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My new hobby: finding public domain images that Getty sells for
$500
Author : app4soft
Score : 75 points
Date : 2023-03-19 21:40 UTC (1 hours ago)
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| josephcsible wrote:
| Isn't it fraud to sell copyright licenses for things that you
| don't own the copyright to? If so, then why isn't the CEO of
| Getty in prison? If not, why not?
| qwery wrote:
| It might be fraud/criminal to sell a license to something _that
| someone else holds the copyright to_.
|
| > why isn't the CEO of Getty in prison?
|
| CEOs usually won't even be charged for their (what we would
| call) "crimes", it wouldn't be fair given the sacrifices they
| make. Of course, it's also part of the treaty between our kind
| and theirs. In exchange for them saving humanity and the
| planet, humanity looks the other way from time to time.
| nl wrote:
| These are public domain so out of copyright.
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| paulryanrogers wrote:
| Because public domain means you can sell it in any form you
| like, modified or original?
|
| Claiming it's an entirely original work would be lying. Not
| sure it would be a crime.
| josephcsible wrote:
| > would be lying. Not sure it would be a crime.
|
| Doesn't fraud basically mean lying for financial gain?
| PufPufPuf wrote:
| They could argue that it's derivative work based on public
| domain resources. Getty cropped the picture from the public
| domain scans and cleaned it up a bit.
| freeone3000 wrote:
| You don't need to. They're public domain.
| paxys wrote:
| As is always the case with such things, they are not selling the
| image but the convenience.
|
| The one linked in their example is on the first page of Getty
| search results for "old telephone sketch", along with dozens of
| other similar options. Being able to pick one I like in 3 clicks
| is easily worth the $500 when compared to having to go to the
| library (or Google Books or wherever else), digging up old books
| that may or may not match the subject, finding appropriate
| illustrations, hi-res scanning, editing in Gimp...
| rezonant wrote:
| Yeah, as long as they aren't threatening legal action for the
| image, I think this is fine. I'd like to think they wouldn't be
| so dumb as to try to bring litigation for an image like this,
| but then again, if they think they can get away with it...
|
| The most upstanding thing to do would be to put source
| information in the listing. They don't need to proclaim it
| public domain up front, but it would be ethical to provide that
| detail if one were interested in inquiring.
| UncleEntity wrote:
| > Yeah, as long as they aren't threatening legal action for
| the image...
|
| They would never do that...
|
| https://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-
| getty...
| toomuchtodo wrote:
| I enjoy the public service Cory is performing here. If more
| people want to spend time doing so and contributing back to the
| Wiki Commons, I think that's an objectively good thing. A
| rising tide and all that. Might even be able to automate the
| workflow using TinEye (to fingerprint stock photos and then
| find the public domain source for optimization and upload).
|
| With regards to stock photos in general, it looks like Deep
| Learning like Stable Diffusion (and the resulting public
| domains images [1]) are the future.
|
| [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35191206
| hncommenter13 wrote:
| I'm not defending all of Getty's business practices, obviously.
| But my understanding of what Getty is selling is both convenience
| and a degree of legal protection for media buyers. If you buy an
| image from them, they will, in writing, guarantee you that it is
| legally permissible to use, provided you follow the terms of the
| agreement.
|
| https://www.gettyimages.com.au/eula [Australian terms], Section 9
| reads in part:
|
| Representations and Warranties. Getty Images makes the following
| representations and warranties:
|
| Warranty of Non-Infringement. For all licensed content (excluding
| content marked "access only"), Getty Images warrants that your
| use of such content in accordance with this agreement and in the
| form delivered by Getty Images (that is, excluding any
| modifications, overlays or refocusing done by you) will not
| infringe on any copyrights or moral rights of the content
| owner/creator. Additional Warranties for Certain Content.
|
| RF: For licensed royalty-free content (excluding content marked
| "editorial" or "intended for editorial"), Getty Images warrants
| that your use of such content in accordance with this agreement
| and in the form delivered by Getty Images (that is, excluding any
| modifications, overlays or refocusing done by you) will not
| infringe on any trademark or other intellectual property right,
| and will not violate any right of privacy or right of publicity.
|
| RM/RR: For licensed rights-managed and rights-ready content where
| Getty Images specifically notifies you that a model and/or
| property release has been obtained, Getty Images warrants that
| your use of such content in accordance with this agreement and in
| the form delivered by Getty Images (that is, excluding any
| modifications, overlays or refocusing done by you) will not,
| where a property release has been obtained, infringe on any
| trademark or other intellectual property right and/or will not,
| where a model release has been obtained, violate any right of
| privacy or right of publicity.
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