[HN Gopher] A battle royal is brewing over copyright and AI
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       A battle royal is brewing over copyright and AI
        
       Author : Hoasi
       Score  : 16 points
       Date   : 2023-03-16 15:39 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
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       | Udo wrote:
       | I find it interesting that many artists seem to think their
       | creativity was formed in a vacuum, as if the overwhelming mass of
       | any human's output isn't based off of earlier input. The thing
       | we're actually rebelling against here is a perception of
       | outperformance, and maybe to some degree obsolescence, of certain
       | skills. This always happens when there is a quantum leap in the
       | development of tools.
       | 
       | Somehow we have this notion that we can put an idea (a song, a
       | painting, a text, a meme, you name it) out there and by virtue of
       | copyright people will be obliged to pay for it but will not be
       | able to use it in any way. This is not possible, and advancements
       | in tools such as computers and AI generators make this very
       | obvious. You will NEVER be able to prevent people from mimicking
       | your style, your choices, even your content - you can only
       | prevent them from publishing identical copies and claiming them
       | as their own for a while. I think that's all perfectly fine.
       | 
       | If you don't want your idea to become part of the mountain of
       | content that our civilization is built on: don't publish it.
       | Write it down, store it in your cellar, and have your heirs burn
       | it after you die.
        
         | greysphere wrote:
         | So long as you're consistent with that view for all forms of
         | intellectual property that seems a reasonable position.
         | However, most of the world had chosen to enact barriers giving
         | rights to the creators of IP, on the theory that that incentive
         | encourages the development of creative works and enriches
         | society more than it would have without those barriers. I look
         | forward to the work you are going to be doing the upcoming
         | years to promote your position, build coalitions and enact laws
         | that will change society to reflect your viewpoint. That is
         | unless that isn't your plan and instead your spouting talking
         | points just to serve your self interest. Hopefully not though!
        
           | Udo wrote:
           | _> enact laws that will change society to reflect your
           | viewpoint_
           | 
           | Society already reflects my viewpoint. Culture is based on
           | remixing ideas. Most commonly copyright applies to direct
           | reproduction, although there are obviously degrees. Whether
           | copyright deserves to exist as it currently does is another
           | discussion.
           | 
           |  _> instead your spouting nonsense just to serve your self
           | interest. Hopefully not though!_
           | 
           | What about my position is nonsense, and what do you think my
           | self interest is?
        
       | ftyers wrote:
       | https://archive.ph/sp54w
        
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