[HN Gopher] Germany Will Move Forward with Marijuana Legalization
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Germany Will Move Forward with Marijuana Legalization
Author : qwytw
Score : 62 points
Date : 2023-03-15 15:57 UTC (7 hours ago)
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| rayiner wrote:
| Marijuana decriminalization amd legalization was billed in part
| based on the notion that it wasn't going to change people's
| behavior, just decriminalize existing activity. At least in DC,
| it's led to a noticeable uptick in marijuana use. You can smell
| it in the streets in many parts of the city, including in office
| buildings. It's sad to see Germany go down the same road.
| Mizza wrote:
| Yeah, we should keep locking people up and ruining their lives
| because you notice a smell sometimes.
| lisasays wrote:
| Good. Time to finally put those dealers in Gorli (largely) out of
| business.
|
| For non-locals: that's Gorlitzer Park, Berlin, which has largely
| been owned (and rendered nearly useless) by the dealers for
| several years now (along with the neighboring streets, and a good
| chunk of the recreational land on the canal zone nearby).
| giraffe_lady wrote:
| How did they render it useless? I don't know anything about
| this but I'm picking up "no one goes there anymore it's too
| crowded" vibes.
| lisasays wrote:
| I just go by own impressions - which are that it feels skivvy
| as all get out to walk through, or in the general vicinity of
| that park.
|
| Hence, rendering it basically useless as a "park".
| throwbadubadu wrote:
| Strange impressions you have and totally disagree. The park
| is vibrant and full of kids and families over the day..
| dealers don't even annoy you usually if you signal strong
| non-interest or don't fall into typical buyer group.. you
| can even walk safely through the park at darker times when
| you stick to the big ways (though I mean to feel safe, I'd
| say you are almost safe everywhere as safe as you can be in
| a big german city in darker places everywhere... you are
| likely even safer there because enough people around vs
| other scary places)
|
| Yes, they can make a bad and for some an intimidating
| appearance, and make others mad, but "making the park
| useless" is a gross exaggeration... how often are you
| there, and where you from? Just curious..
|
| Most of these people are not as bad, and while this film
| sure tells a story, I'd suggest to watch the modern version
| of "Berlin Alexanderplatz" just to get another perspective.
| luckylion wrote:
| > dealers don't even annoy you usually if you signal
| strong non-interest or don't fall into typical buyer
| group
|
| > you can even walk safely through the park at darker
| times when you stick to the big ways
|
| You have no idea how crazy that sounds for someone that
| isn't acclimatized to Berlin culture.
| coyotespike wrote:
| Yes, I was comfortable walking through it alone, but my
| parents weren't thrilled when we walked through it
| together
|
| > dealers don't even annoy you usually
|
| is not that strong an argument.
| [deleted]
| ostenning wrote:
| > my parents weren't thrilled when we walked through it
| together
|
| I too have experienced this
| lisasays wrote:
| Yeah, I guess compared to the demimonde of 1920s Berlin
| one could say it's pretty tame.
|
| But by that, and the other indications you are providing
| - "some are intimidating, some not... you can even walk
| safely at night if you stick to the large paths" are what
| I mean by falling fall short of the standards of what one
| expects from nice, decent and inviting city park.
|
| As for the kids and families there during the day - it's
| not like they have much choice.
|
| _Where you from?_
|
| Let's just say I've lived in plenty of places in Europe -
| not necessarily 24-hour party people destinations like
| Berlin, but definitely not backwaters either - where one
| didn't have to think twice about taking a walk in the
| park at night.
|
| I also remember a Berlin from not too long ago when it
| was ugly and decrepit (if in a beautiful way), for sure -
| but where one didn't need to be on one's guard in so many
| places, as now.
| mc32 wrote:
| "If you stay on the main paths or you walk on groups, you
| will not get mugged." Sounds like Central Park NYC in the
| heyday of the early 90s.
| [deleted]
| beepbooptheory wrote:
| What is "skivvy" in this context?
| lisasays wrote:
| Far too much eye contact and verbal solicitation from
| random strangers.
|
| Just ... standing there as if to intercept you when
| walking by.
| caseyohara wrote:
| I'm guessing they meant "skeevy". Unpleasant, squalid, or
| distasteful; morally or physically repulsive.
| ostenning wrote:
| The dealers in Gorli, Hasenheide etc are often there because
| either they have no working visa or have no identity papers at
| all.
|
| Legalising weed wont change the systemic social issues of
| Berlin
| pengaru wrote:
| I find it hard to believe marijuana is the only drug dealers in
| a park serving an urban center with a penchant for clubs/night
| life like Berlin are peddling...
| euroderf wrote:
| I would not be surprised to hear that the beer industry is
| lobbying against this.
| jagermo wrote:
| Good. My retirement plan is to have a "pick your weed" style
| plantation, similar to the "pick your strawberries" fields.
| probably have to think about pricing for product used on site.
| dunefox wrote:
| There is no way this would be legal. No chance.
| anononaut wrote:
| Picked ganja still needs to be cured, like tobacco. Love the
| idea, though. I'd visit.
| jagermo wrote:
| we will have the fresh picked one for people to cure at home,
| and some choice snacks and herbs to enjoy onsite. Probably
| also a cooperation with local bakeries for the munchies :)
|
| so far, it is nothing but a dream, however we own a pretty
| decent plot of land where you can't build anything because it
| is in a water protection zone. great soil, though.
| officeplant wrote:
| Going by watching friends grow setups, you'd have to have
| staggered grow cycles within contained areas to make sure
| there was always something to pick and cure. The whole
| fresh picked part seems silly to me, and I'm someone who
| has contemplated converting scotch tasting journals into
| weed ones for folks that rant about terpenes all day.
|
| I think a "Farm to Jar" setup would be neater, almost like
| visiting a brewery that does free tours of the grounds.
| Tour and a tasting room followed by visits to the shop to
| buy your favorites.
| moaf wrote:
| I don't think this would work well because of the
| relatively small harvesting window for flowers. Assuming
| that it's an outdoor farm, you'd also have to contend with
| frost and other factors that could destroy the harvest. I
| think it would be nice to have a farm that people could
| visit though and learn about the process. Another idea that
| I've considered before would be to rent a small plot of
| land on a larger farm, and pay a fee to have someone else
| grow and harvest the plant for you. Finally, I think
| there's a market for a harvesting service, where people
| bring in whole plants, unharvested, an the company fully
| processes the plant (trims and cures the flower, makes
| bubble hash or shatter from the leaves, etc.)
| ChatGTP wrote:
| As an insomniac who doesn't live in Germany, I'm jealous!
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