[HN Gopher] Vesuvius Challenge
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Vesuvius Challenge
Author : razin
Score : 152 points
Date : 2023-03-15 15:32 UTC (7 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (scrollprize.org)
(TXT) w3m dump (scrollprize.org)
| localplume wrote:
| Reminds me of Kuzushiji recognition with ML, transcribing
| historical Japanese documents. Both are my favorite applications
| of ML: deciphering the past. This is really damn cool.
| janpaul123 wrote:
| <3
| SubiculumCode wrote:
| I do a lot of brain image segmentation in my research using
| multiatlas image segmentation, which involves diffeomorphic image
| registration from multiple labeled atlases...but the amount of
| curling in on itself of these layered sheets seems a daunting
| problem for a fully automated pipeline.
| irrational wrote:
| People spent many many decades laboriously putting tiny little
| dead sea scroll fragments back together like the world's worst
| jigsaw puzzle. I think that shows if there is a way to do this
| that takes a lot of tedious manual labor over many decades,
| there are people who will be willing to do that. They just need
| the tools to do the work without destroying the scrolls.
| natfriedman wrote:
| It seems quite possible that the solution isn't fully
| automated. N is in the hundreds. And modern AI does, in fact,
| involve quite a lot of hand crafted data...
| janpaul123 wrote:
| One of the organizers here! Would love to welcome everyone's
| questions, ideas, etc! :)
| all2 wrote:
| How do I get my hands on the data set? There's no indication on
| the site about how to make an attempt.
| all2 wrote:
| Nevermind. There's a hamburger menu in the top right corner.
| It wasn't immediately obvious to me.
| all2 wrote:
| Another note: the demo data [0] is behind an HTTP link.
| Consider getting it behind HTTPS. My browser was complaining
| about downloading the data from plain HTTP.
|
| [0]
| https://gist.github.com/janpaul123/280262ebce904f7366fe4cc15...
| janpaul123 wrote:
| Good point, we'll look into it!
| jawns wrote:
| Is this the most cost-effective way to achieve the desired
| outcome?
| janpaul123 wrote:
| We don't know. But it's the most fun!
| SubiculumCode wrote:
| Does the prize include a PhD? /s Because, this sounds like
| a dissertation-level project, and that prize money is less
| than the cost of supporting a grad student, or a post doc
| for a couple of years. That said, I think this is soo
| freaking cool.
| SubiculumCode wrote:
| This needs to be solved ASAP. Chat-gpt needs more training data!
|
| but seriously, way cool project.
| [deleted]
| janpaul123 wrote:
| More data!!
| ccooffee wrote:
| The images/animations in this page are fantastic at visually
| explaining something quite complicated. I would not have been
| able to understand the difficulty without them.
| natfriedman wrote:
| Credit for those goes to Jonny Hyman, who also does animations
| for Veritasium, Dejan Gotic, who did the fancy 3d animations,
| and JP Posma, who directed the entire project!
| mkaic wrote:
| Man, there's probably a dozen different loosely-formed ideas
| floating in my head right now -- kudos on the exciting
| presentation, you really make the problem seem interesting. I may
| just have to give this a shot, though I think the odds of me
| figuring it out are exceptionally low. Still, working on cutting-
| edge problems is motivating, even if they're above my pay grade
| :)
|
| You've nerd-sniped me good and proper. May the best team win!
| janpaul123 wrote:
| Haha yesss, nerd-sniping is the goal!
|
| I believe that there could be quite a few different ways in
| which this could get solved. The potential solution space is
| huge, so you might just stumble upon something interesting if
| you wander places where no one else is looking..
|
| Good luck!!
| glfharris wrote:
| Fantastic project. Amazing to think that there's an entire first
| century library just waiting for the technology to be read.
| janpaul123 wrote:
| Right?! Who knows what could be waiting in a library owned by
| leaders of the Roman Empire
| Matt_Cutts wrote:
| For what it's worth, I worked with Dr. Seales while getting my
| undergrad degree. Happy to vouch that he and his team are great
| humans.
|
| This is such a fascinating problem, and could have real benefits
| for society. Imagine uncovering ancient works that would
| otherwise be lost.
| janpaul123 wrote:
| Awesome!! They're so great; it's been such a joy to be welcomed
| into their project.
|
| And totally -- especially if there is indeed a larger library
| still waiting to be excavated. Who knows how many completely
| unique texts are waiting to be read, if we just have the right
| method to do so?!
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