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       Show HN: Web0.cc - Generate clutter, ad and tracker free article
       pages to share
        
       I recently observed that majority of my family members and friends
       are not using ad blockers and reader mode for reasons suck as lack
       of knowledge about plugins & laziness.  So their online reading
       experience is not pleasant as a result very less amount of them
       read anything including what i share.  Its an attempt to give them
       clutter, tracker & ad free reading experience right off the bat.
        
       Author : web0_cc
       Score  : 82 points
       Date   : 2023-03-13 13:55 UTC (9 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (web0.cc)
 (TXT) w3m dump (web0.cc)
        
       | vivegi wrote:
       | Tried https://nytimes.com/ to see what I get. The output
       | https://web0.cc/a/rLk0Tnn2K- was not what I expected.
        
         | SamBam wrote:
         | It's designed for reading articles, I wouldn't expect the front
         | page to work well.
         | 
         | Here's an opinion article from the Times, seems to work fine:
         | 
         | https://web0.cc/a/zTHtZFEXci
         | 
         | Suggestion for web0: include the final part of the URL in the
         | new URL, so you can at least make a guess as to what it is.
         | Include a GUID at the end if you need to disambiguate.
        
           | web0_cc wrote:
           | Thanks for checking the app, SamBam.
           | 
           | Do you mean like this https://web0.cc/a/zTHtZFEXci?url=https:
           | //www.nytimes.com/202...
        
             | SamBam wrote:
             | That's good, although anyone can put anything there.
             | 
             | https://web0.cc/a/zTHtZFEXci?url=https://haxx0r.c0m
             | 
             | I was thinking more along the lines of
             | 
             | https://web0.cc/a/opinion/english-literature-study-
             | zTHtZFEXc...
             | 
             | Of course it doesn't actually grant you security.
             | 
             | What if your original link with the `url=` refused to load
             | if the target didn't match the query parameter? That would
             | actually make it secure, no?
        
       | jszymborski wrote:
       | Seems to truncate this article
       | 
       | https://web0.cc/a/e-cYg2rJ8Q
       | 
       | https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/03/floating-solar-panel...
        
       | junon wrote:
       | Tried to load in a Yahoo article. After waiting about 30 seconds
       | I hit the refresh button and it said "failed after 1 attempts" or
       | some such. I went to click "report a problem" and the Email
       | client prompt showed up (I don't have a desktop email client), so
       | I'm afraid I couldn't report feedback.
       | 
       | Just some feedback for you here, instead.
        
         | mroche wrote:
         | The prompt comes up from auto detecting an email address/mailto
         | in the link. You should be able to right click and "Copy Email
         | Address".
        
         | web0_cc wrote:
         | Thanks for giving it a try. Sure i will look into it.
        
       | ignoramous wrote:
       | I use _archive.is_ because it removes ads, cookie banners, and
       | doesn 't execute archived webapage's javascript.
        
       | dgeiser13 wrote:
       | Does this also remove paywalls? Either intentionally or
       | unintentionally?
        
         | web0_cc wrote:
         | unfortunately, No it can't.
        
           | pcthrowaway wrote:
           | Does anyone know how archive.is is able to remove paywalls if
           | this can't?
        
             | tyingq wrote:
             | It would either have to be pooled subscriptions, or a
             | maintained set of different, per-site workarounds (using
             | specific referrers and/or user-agents, disabling or
             | modifying on-page javascript, hidden urls, etc) or a mix of
             | the two.
        
       | xnx wrote:
       | Does this insert affiliate links?
        
         | web0_cc wrote:
         | No
        
       | realshadow wrote:
       | web0- Zero ads, Zero trackers & Zero Clutter. Awesome.
       | 
       | I think this is a good tool to share articles with not tech savy
       | parents who cant distinguish between ads and real content.
        
       | nmstoker wrote:
       | Nice. How about creating a bookmarklet to make it super easy to
       | share a web0.cc link from the current page?
       | 
       | Then people don't need to copy the url, go to web0.cc, paste it
       | and submit.
       | 
       | Also maybe if the refresh can be reliably done after a few
       | seconds then you could make the page refresh itself automatically
       | (it's not difficult for the user but it's one less thing to
       | handle). You could tweak the refresh time by how busy your site
       | is.
        
       | eli wrote:
       | If the site ever gets popular expect to get blocked by publishers
       | and/or to receive legal threats. Big publishers really don't like
       | people republishing content without a license.
        
       | steren wrote:
       | Why isn't this achieved client side?
        
         | a2128 wrote:
         | It can be, Firefox and some other browsers have a built-in
         | reader view. This website is useful regardless for sharing
         | articles with people who don't know about reader view or whose
         | browsers don't support it
        
         | kevincox wrote:
         | CORS makes this difficult. For non-CORS enabled sites you would
         | need to use a server-side proxy. But at that point why not do
         | the filtering on the server to avoid transferring unnecessary
         | data?
        
       | prophesi wrote:
       | Nice domain name! It'd be cool to leverage archive.md as well to
       | help bypass pay walls. I tried it on a First Things link and it
       | was only able to grab the first two paragraphs.
        
         | web0_cc wrote:
         | Mozilla's readability library does the heavy lifting behind the
         | scenes. Its an amazing library but it fails to support some
         | sites.
         | 
         | I will definitely try to improve the library or find another
         | way to support the mentioned website.
         | 
         | Thanks for the feedback.
        
       | eevahr wrote:
       | Is the source code available anywhere?
        
       | dmje wrote:
       | I saw "generate clutter..." in the title and thought "why would I
       | want to generate clutter?"
       | 
       | I know it's a minor point but I'd go "Remove clutter, ads and
       | trackers from any article" for a stronger initial proposition.
        
         | emmelaich wrote:
         | Mine is
         | 
         | > _Generate pages free of ads, trackers and other clutter._
         | 
         | Put the major purpose in the first two words.
         | 
         | [edit - otoh it doesn't generate pages really but generates
         | versions of existing pages]
        
         | codetrotter wrote:
         | "Generate removal of clutter, ads and trackers" and then
         | everyone is happy :D
        
         | pcthrowaway wrote:
         | "Generate a URL that brings the content of any article into
         | focus, leaving the clutter, ads, and tracking behind"
        
         | layer8 wrote:
         | How about "Declutter web pages, remove ads and trackers". Then
         | the thing being improved (web pages) is also mentioned at the
         | start and not only at the end.
        
         | carapace wrote:
         | > Generate clutter-, ad-, and tracker-free article pages to
         | share
         | 
         | I miss hyphens.
        
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       | solarkraft wrote:
       | Pretty neat; it's something I've wished for in the past for
       | things like browsing on limited E-Readers.
       | 
       | How'd you build it? I built something vaguely similar (but
       | generating epub) using Mercury Parser.
        
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