[HN Gopher] Did Air Pollution Influence Famous Impressionist Pai...
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Did Air Pollution Influence Famous Impressionist Painters?
Author : rntn
Score : 44 points
Date : 2023-03-11 18:44 UTC (4 hours ago)
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| Mlller wrote:
| A related hypothesis[1] connects the Tambora eruption in 1815
| with the colors of the sky in paintings made in the years
| thereafter, e.g. "Greifswald im Mondschein" 'Greifswald in the
| moonlight' by Caspar David Friedrich in 1817, see:
| https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Caspar_David_Friedrich_0...
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| [1]
| https://acp.copernicus.org/articles/14/2987/2014/acp-14-2987...
| samstave wrote:
| how much lead was in their paints which absorbed into skin and
| mouth when they would whet their brush with saliva?
| MengerSponge wrote:
| Not just lead! Cadmium (yellow) and arsenic (green) feature
| prominently too
| kergonath wrote:
| That's not really a good hypothesis. Lead was not invented by
| the impressionists. Why would they be the first? You'd expect
| some kind of correlation; lead has been widely used since
| ancient times. How is this any better that pollution, which is
| known and documented?
| giuliomagnifico wrote:
| > "These results indicate that Turner and Monet's paintings
| capture elements of the atmospheric environmental transformation
| during the Industrial Revolution," the researchers write
|
| I think it's more that the painter captured the
| change/modifications caused by the Industrial Revolution, then
| "capturing the pollution".
| paxys wrote:
| > change/modifications caused by the Industrial Revolution
|
| So...pollution.
| giuliomagnifico wrote:
| Yes but kow we know that is pollution, in 1800 they didn't
| know that was pollution, that is why I said that the painters
| captured "the change" (and without know it, the actual air
| pollution)
| lostlogin wrote:
| You can smell it and often identify what it it, they knew.
|
| The Romans had court cases relating to air quality and
| London was suffering in the 1200s. In the 1300s London
| started legislating to try and control the pollution.
|
| https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/air-
| pollution-...
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| https://www.londonair.org.uk/londonair/guide/londonhistory.
| a...
| kergonath wrote:
| I am sure they noticed the smog. Besides, lots of people
| see and comment on things they do not understand all the
| time. Influence is not necessarily a conscious process.
|
| In the same way as it is known that Monet's painting was
| probably influenced by his poor sight even if there is no
| evidence that he did it on purpose.
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