[HN Gopher] Children's IQ dropped during lockdown, study finds
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       Children's IQ dropped during lockdown, study finds
        
       Author : petodo
       Score  : 18 points
       Date   : 2023-03-09 20:57 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.telegraph.co.uk)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.telegraph.co.uk)
        
       | petodo wrote:
       | Link to study
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       | https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal...
        
       | mrlonglong wrote:
       | This is the telegraph, a mouth piece for Tory anti-lockdown
       | "reporters", such as Isabel Oakeshott and Julia Hartley-Brewer. I
       | wouldn't take anything they print at face value.
        
         | ETH_start wrote:
         | So the main opposition to Labour should be dismissed off hand?
         | 
         | The conflation of 'the political left's perception of reality'
         | with 'the truth' is outrageous, and nothing more than an
         | attempt to delegitimize views that conflict with the political
         | left's agenda, which corresponds with polls showing in the US,
         | registered Democrats are increasingly gravitating toward
         | authoritarianism:
         | 
         | https://rumble.com/vnwyhz-the-mountain-of-data-showing-how-a...
         | 
         | The evidence for harm from lockdowns is at this point
         | overwhelming, but this issue has become so politicized that the
         | worst policy decision perhaps in history is being swept under
         | the rug.
         | 
         | Absent a feasible zero-COVID strategy, which for most countries
         | was never in the books due to their geographical situation,
         | lockdowns have been found to have virtually no impact on
         | reducing the spread of COVID.
         | 
         | https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13571516.2021.19...
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         | https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/files/2022/01/A-Literature...
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         | Lockdowns have devasted education:
         | 
         | https://www.economist.com/international/2022/07/07/covid-lea...
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         | The cost to lifetime earnings is estimated to be $17 trillion:
         | 
         | https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2021/12/06/l...
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         | Which will massively exacerbate poverty and all of its
         | associated illnesses.
         | 
         | The education losses have been worst for the poor:
         | 
         | https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2022/05/remote-learni...
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         | Social distancing and other COVID control measures, which
         | became mandatory with lockdowns, have been associated with a
         | surge in childhood obesity:
         | 
         | https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7037a3.htm?s_cid=mm...
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         | 97 million more people are estimated to be poverty due to the
         | social reaction to COVID, the most drastic and disruptive of
         | which were lockdowns:
         | 
         | https://blogs.worldbank.org/opendata/updated-estimates-impac...
        
       | GenerocUsername wrote:
       | Elephant in room: Demographic change
        
       | Imnimo wrote:
       | How should I interpret Figure 8?
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       | https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/figure?id=10.1371/...
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       | If the difference between the 2012 and 2020 cohorts is roughly
       | the same as between the 2012 and 2002 cohorts, why should I
       | suspect this isn't just a failure to pick comparable cohorts
       | across the decades?
        
       | meghan_rain wrote:
       | Is this because increase social media/internet use?
       | 
       | Edit: Also, how can the average IQ be 112? I thought it was
       | always 100?
        
         | lockhouse wrote:
         | I think it has more to do with the very low quality of remote
         | instruction.
         | 
         | Zoom and friends are generally speaking a terrible way to teach
         | children. The medium is more or less limited to auditory and
         | visual learning. With some preparation and parental involvement
         | you can do some hands on learning, but it is much more limited
         | than in a classroom.
        
           | GenerocUsername wrote:
           | It's a 10 year gap between measure. There could be many
           | factors beyond lockdown
        
         | hackerlight wrote:
         | > Also, how can the average IQ be 112? I thought it was always
         | 100?
         | 
         | Sample mean (112) != population mean (unknowable) != an
         | estimate of the population mean (100)
        
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