[HN Gopher] Twitter refused to pay AWS bill, so Amazon refused t...
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       Twitter refused to pay AWS bill, so Amazon refused to pay for ads
        
       Author : moonka
       Score  : 37 points
       Date   : 2023-03-05 21:06 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | seo-speedwagon wrote:
       | I've been curious how long you can get away with not paying your
       | AWS bill before they start shutting your stuff off. Obviously it
       | matters how big a customer you are, and I imagine AWS will put up
       | with quite a bit in the hopes of having that contract honored
       | before burning that bridge entirely.
       | 
       | What kinds of knobs does AWS have, I wonder? Not allowing new
       | resources to get allocated? Eventually start draining existing
       | resources? I imagine for stateful stuff like DB tables and EBS
       | volumes they might keep them around but inaccessible to Twitter
       | until they pay their bill.
       | 
       | I of course am a responsible individual with a flawless credit
       | score so I have no experience with such things myself
        
         | olliej wrote:
         | _Presumably_ amazon believes that twitter has sufficient assets
         | that a court order can leave them whole. They have a contract
         | with twitter, so twitter can't simply not pay indefinitely it's
         | just a matter of when amazon decides that twitter's debt to
         | them exceeds their assets, and their revenue won't make up for
         | it.
        
           | seo-speedwagon wrote:
           | This is a good point. It makes it seem a lot more binary,
           | actually. Either I think I can get my money with enough legal
           | work, so I keep serving them, or I don't think I'll be made
           | whole so they're fired as a customer and their assets get
           | liquidated (modulo anything that is paid up like reserved
           | assets that are paid in full).
           | 
           | Again my enviable FICO score and decades of responsible
           | borrowing mean I'm speculating quite a bit here
        
         | quartz wrote:
         | I can't speak to AWS but in my experience with an expired
         | credit card and a few dollars owed on an otherwise unused
         | account Azure will permanently destroy your data and resources
         | after about 5 months.
        
         | lolc wrote:
         | Amazon wants Twitter to spend according to contract; refusing
         | service would run counter that. When there is a contract, there
         | are hefty legal switches one can throw. No need to fiddle with
         | resource knobs.
        
       | lolc wrote:
       | Bet on an ecosystem. Waived due diligence. Didn't read the
       | contract. Trampled the biosphere. Now trying to negotiate the
       | bill. Ragequit incoming. Sells for pennies.
       | 
       | I have sympathy with consumers who don't read the terms. I laugh
       | when rich people misspend billions.
        
       | thomascgalvin wrote:
       | Elon's bold strategy of "not paying any of his bills" doesn't
       | seem like a great way to keep a service up and running, but then
       | again neither does firing any engineer who doesn't agree to be on
       | call 24/7/365 to address Elon's little temper tantrums.
        
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