[HN Gopher] Zag Smalltalk [video]
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       Zag Smalltalk [video]
        
       Author : sebastianconcpt
       Score  : 54 points
       Date   : 2023-03-02 16:13 UTC (2 days ago)
        
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       | imglorp wrote:
       | https://github.com/dvmason/Zag-Smalltalk/blob/main/Documenta...
        
       | marvel_boy wrote:
       | I miss Smalltak so much ! Was the first serious language I
       | learnt, playing with it was incredible.
        
         | butterisgood wrote:
         | Mess with Pharo?
        
           | znpy wrote:
           | I messed with pharo in summer 2022 while on vacation.
           | 
           | It looks featureful on the outside but when you look a bit
           | deeper it shows that either sone libraries are half-done or
           | completely rotting inside.
        
             | spindle wrote:
             | Cuis Smalltalk fixes that problem (at the expense of having
             | fewer libraries):
             | 
             | https://cuis.st/
        
               | znpy wrote:
               | I am not sure if I'd prefer fewer libraries (of alleged
               | higher quality) or more libraries in a rotting state.
               | 
               | To be completely honesty if I had to pick a smalltalk to
               | start messing again I'd pick pharo again to go with the
               | most popular implementation.
        
             | melvinroest wrote:
             | Could you give some more concrete examples? I'm curious as
             | to what you mean. I've worked with Pharo but not with other
             | Smalltalks.
        
               | znpy wrote:
               | I remember trying to play with a web framework (z
               | something?) but it felt half baked and the documentation
               | was fairly lacking, for example.
        
               | Qem wrote:
               | In terms of documentation, several free books on Pharo
               | are available at https://books.pharo.org/ As it's
               | development is fast paced, they tend to get a bit
               | outdated fast. But at least the basic ones get updated
               | often. Most recent versions are from 2022. I think the
               | framework you are referring to is Zinc.
        
         | trh0awayman wrote:
         | If you're willing to boot to Windows, Dolphin Smalltalk is the
         | best modern day version. It's great fun to play with and easy
         | to make native tools.
        
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