[HN Gopher] FreeBSD Home Audio Studio
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FreeBSD Home Audio Studio
Author : vermaden
Score : 146 points
Date : 2023-03-02 06:16 UTC (16 hours ago)
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| ianai wrote:
| I'm blown away that people are still playing Urban Terror in
| 2023.
| bit-perfect wrote:
| With OpenArena you have that some maps still look really nice
| in 2023 if you set all settings to the highest settings, which
| any modern GPU can easily handle. Some maps are just plain
| super cool. So I mean some maps can give you an experience that
| the best commercial titles can't match right now. Urban Terror
| is probably similar in that it has been developed more and more
| over the years and has received better maps and features.
| merpkz wrote:
| Can you just tell which maps are those? Whenever I check
| OpenArena I am saddened to see that every server is empty of
| humans or there are just few russians arguing in regular
| stype maps
| merpkz wrote:
| I still do, because there is no other game which can match the
| experience of jump-slide-fps action as this one does, simple as
| that. Sadly there are only ever two maps where people still
| play and neither of them roll Dust2 or Ryiadh maps, which are
| my fav.
| ianai wrote:
| True it has a golden combination of realism and quakeism.
| numbsafari wrote:
| If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
| huimang wrote:
| I think it's cool that people work on DAWs for *nix/*bsd, but as
| someone who uses linux as a daily driver, I don't really see the
| point.
|
| When I want to make or record music, I don't want to spend time
| debugging the system. I just want it to work, and I don't want
| have to worry if a plugin runs on my system. *nix/*bsd don't come
| close to achieving that, and windows is not stable enough for
| audio systems for my taste. IOW what is the hobby here? Making
| music, or tinkering with my *nix/*bsd system?
| prmoustache wrote:
| The association of using linux/bsd and spending time debugging
| system is getting old. Like very very old and outdated.
|
| The parent article show a small number of config files to set
| and a package to install. It is not more complicated than
| installing ASIO4ALL driver and setting it up on a windows box.
|
| And I can show you countless of threads in music forums about
| people asking how to solve their midi connections / sync /
| latency / clipping problems on macOS and windows.
| hn8305823 wrote:
| Linux didn't get that way without people like OP helping to
| make things work. Many people said (and still say) the same
| things about Linux vs Mac for example.
| ralphw wrote:
| This might be a good idea to find a more stable platform. I may
| start messing with GUIX to feel Lispy throughout my next
| computing adventures
|
| I love Linux, but feel a bit of whiplash after Ubuntu's feeping
| commerce creaturism, charging for things that it seems like
| should be in the core product. (live kernel patching, for
| example)
| pipeline_peak wrote:
| The amount of effort people will go to avoid working a job and
| buying a Mac or installing Windows.
| whalesalad wrote:
| You do realize this is _Hacker News_ right?
| [deleted]
| jrm4 wrote:
| "Working a job?"
|
| What _do_ you think the readers of this space do? What is your
| vision of this "non-working" hacker news reader? I
| legitimately can't imagine anything here but a 90's era
| stereotype.
| nickpeterson wrote:
| I think it's a comment on tinkering vs working. A lot of
| people view alternative OS's like BSDs as a toy for tinkering
| but not being productive. I wouldn't know because my entire
| 7-figure income comes from my basement rack of Plan9
| machines...
| pipeline_peak wrote:
| Ride their tandem bikes around "SanFran" with raspberry pi's
| up their asses. Complain about how normal people don't use
| Firefox anymore and that it should be rewritten in Rust. Try
| to convert their FreeBSD thinkpads into modern DAWs.
| nix23 wrote:
| The only person complaining here is you, oh the irony.
| pipeline_peak wrote:
| > Making a joke = complaining
|
| hmmm
| numlock86 wrote:
| Is FreeBSD bringing anything special and mention-worthy to the
| table here or is this just a post in the realm of "Hey, FreeBSD
| can do this, too!"? Not a rant (I'm working with OpenBSD and/or
| FreeBSD almost daily) but more of a question if I have missed
| anything.
| kamranjon wrote:
| For those that might have struggled with Ardour or were looking
| for something just a bit more professional on Linux, I recommend
| Reaper - it's a one time purchase and in my opinion about as good
| as it gets on Linux: https://www.reaper.fm/
| chrisjc wrote:
| Thanks, I was recently trying to figure out what audio app use
| for some very amateur toying around. I used to play around with
| a version of Reason I had long ago and recently just started
| playing with Garageband. It's pretty difficult trying to
| understand where to get started and what to use, esp as just a
| hobby.
|
| Googling "reason vs X" just turned up ad-loaded drivel.
|
| Anyone know of any good guides that lay out the land? Venn
| diagrams of where DAWs (digital audio workstation), Mixers, etc
| overlap or how they relate/compare with each other?
| [deleted]
| dizhn wrote:
| If one is not against proprietary software, Reaper can actually
| be tested (for quite a while) free with all the features
| enabled.
| wyager wrote:
| Reaper is awesome! I did a bunch of research before buying a
| DAW and Reaper struck me as the most principled and generally
| well-designed option among those I found.
|
| It's _very_ powerful, which means there is a bit of a learning
| curve, but it can do everything you want it to, and it has nice
| stuff like really solid scripting support (lua, python, and
| some DSL).
|
| I record like 20-30 audio tracks at a time from my rackmount
| setup and reaper handles it no problem.
|
| Very much worth the $60.
| 7speter wrote:
| Earlier this year I was struggling with just trying to get an
| audio recording workflow together on linux mint. It was really
| eye opening and disappointing, considering that to get some
| tools to work optimally, you have to get into the weeds and see
| if you have the right kernel. Adjusting mic levels are painful,
| everything is painful. I thought we moved beyond having to
| dualboot windows and linux, but now that I'm here for the
| coding, other techie pursuits (bash scripting, homelabbing and
| the like), and gaming, I come to find out that if you still
| probably need to dual boot if you want to do content creation.
| Oh and the only seeming distro thats setup out of the box thats
| focused on content creation is ubuntu studio, and I don't want
| to be run up against a wall because of the snap eco system.
| ladyanita22 wrote:
| You should give Fedora a try with the stock kernel.
| b33j0r wrote:
| "I want to record audio" should not require even 2 hours of
| work. It's still a 10 year learning experience in some
| circumstances. I'm at 20, hopefully I'm saying something
| useful.
|
| I support reaper, here's an opinion. My problem with reaper is
| that I think it was trying to be protools for people who
| couldn't afford protools.
|
| The thing is, most people aren't recording 32 ADC channels and
| 1024 midi tracks on rackmount stuff. I think I have my dad's
| last MIDI cables, and it makes me feel either ancient or
| hipster. Even pro studios are slimmer, cause it's not 2003.
| Workflow is at a premium, and reaper... kinda feels like an
| expensive version of FOSS.
|
| Still so great in the ecosystem, and aw, a DAW love of mine. A
| chisel for the days when the 3D printer just isn't robust
| enough.
|
| I use Logic Pro and bitwig. Bitwig fails the same test. I
| rarely say this, but this niche could inspire nerdy moments a
| bit less, and creative workflows a bit more to be attractive to
| a prosumer.
| PaulDavisThe1st wrote:
| The problem is that after your typical singer/songwriter
| spends a month or two working with the sort of tool they
| "really need", their sense of the possible expands. And
| expands. And expands. They may never get to 32 hardware
| channels, but they will get to automation, VCAs, plugin
| favorites, grouping, and much, much more.
|
| I've considered doing a crazy-simple version of Ardour
| (nominal name "arb" for "Ardour Recording Button"), but I'm
| still not convinced that writing a tool that will only be
| useful to most of its users for a couple of months makes
| sense.
| squarefoot wrote:
| You probably mean the equivalent of a scratchpad for
| writing down ideas without caring about formatting, typos,
| small details etc. This is often accomplished much quicker
| in music by using a hardware platform such as a portable
| recorder with a set of effects and sometimes instruments
| too: plug mic and guitar, start drum machine and start
| recording, then add a few tracks, mix down to .mp3 and the
| quick demo is ready, when done you export the result into
| the DAW where the real work work happens. Zoom and Tascam
| have some really nice devices in their catalog.
|
| The same could be accomplished also in software, and it
| would have a huge success, however packing it with features
| can only slow down the work; everything should be thought
| without the idea of turning it into a full DAW but just
| putting it there the _minimum_ necessary to be productive
| without distractions. Think about a mini Linux distro
| (Alpine?) that boots in seconds on a small netbook to
| directly load the "music scratchpad" at full screen and no
| other software in the background. Plenty of devices are out
| there ready to be repurposed for that, and good external
| USB audio card can be found for cheap.
|
| Years ago I used my old Samsung NC10 netbook to record my
| band. The internal mics were crap like with every laptop,
| but once I built a small stereo jfet preamp to connect two
| external dynamic mics, I got quite good results. It was a
| bit slow to operate, and more so managing the long files we
| created (~3 hours at 44.1KHz 16bit stereo .wav) but I used
| a full Debian plus Audacity without any optimization for
| speed and size.
| PaulDavisThe1st wrote:
| 1. no, you should never ever "mix down to mp3 and export
| to the DAW, where the real work happens". If you're going
| to work in a DAW, please, please start with losslessly
| compressed or uncompressed PCM data.
|
| 2.
|
| > The same could be accomplished also in software, and it
| would have a huge success
|
| Odd how none of the proprietary DAW manufacturers believe
| this, isn't it?
|
| I've already described the basic problem with this idea:
| it starts out as being precisely what someone wants, but
| every few months, their desires/expectations expand. What
| "productive without distractions" means looks very
| different after you've done a bit of computer audio
| production for a year than when you're just starting out.
| rhizome31 wrote:
| Also check Bitwig, Renoise, Tracktion , U-He, AudioThing...
| Plenty of commercial audio software running on Linux nowadays.
| filoleg wrote:
| Bitwig specifically is very known and exceptional. It isn't
| just a "daw for linux", it is a major cross-platform DAW that
| is being developed by a bunch of ex-Ableton people. Been
| following it since the initial release, and by now it became
| clear that they are clearly shooting (and really promisingly)
| for the "top DAW overall" status rather than something more
| narrow like "top Linux DAW".
| marttt wrote:
| I would also add Non DAW. Great example of modular design,
| extremely lightweight, non-destructive editing. The session
| files of Non Timeline are also comfortable and fun to parse or
| even modify with sed/awk etc scripts.
|
| http://non.tuxfamily.org/
|
| EDIT: Also, if you're a command line and text file weirdo like
| me:
|
| Mixer4: http://www.acousticrefuge.com/mixer4.htm (From the
| homepage: "Mixer4 is an audio mixer and processor that can be
| controlled through simple text files. Over a dozen accessory
| programs complete what can be a very solid recording studio." I
| can confirm that it is extremely fast and very interesting to
| use. Nice, responsive and friendly solo developer, too.)
|
| And Ecasound: https://ecasound.seul.org/ecasound/
| ladyanita22 wrote:
| It seems to be somewhat abandoned or unmaintained, does it?
| shams93 wrote:
| Reaper isn't bad however qtracktor is really good and now
| supports the CLAP plugin format.
| Aldipower wrote:
| Which professional sound interface to use?
| eropple wrote:
| I am not a musician, but I am a live events operator, and since
| almost everybody has a Zoom setup now I want to asterisk
| something for folks who are reading: the interfaces recommended
| in other comments are _great_ interfaces if you are a musician,
| but for spoken word they 're all overkill. If you're in the
| market for that, start slow.
|
| I recommend a good USB-powered dynamic microphone, such as the
| Samson Q2U or Samson Q9U. If you're going to buy an interface
| (maybe to drive some monitors as well as a microphone) and an
| XLR microphone for exclusively spoken-word stuff, the "buy a
| dynamic" advice still applies--I like the sE Dynacaster but I'm
| also the type to spend $300 on a microphone, you don't need to
| be--but you really don't need more than something like a
| Behringer UMC22 for an interface. Not a UM22, that's different
| and a bit below-the-bar, but you don't need to spend more than
| $60-$70 for an interface that will do everything you need.
|
| I wrote this near the start of COVID when at a previous company
| and my advice still holds.
|
| https://www.mux.com/blog/zoom-like-you-mean-it-1
|
| https://www.mux.com/blog/zoom-like-you-mean-it-2
| PaulDavisThe1st wrote:
| https://ardour.org/faq.html#say-no-to-usb
| eropple wrote:
| Can you explain why you posted this link-and-run? Because
| this is not a responsive criticism to what I wrote. And, if
| one reads the document you linked, the authors of that
| document expressly do not intend it to be responsive.
|
| _> If you plan to use your USB mic with its own headphone
| jack, then most of what is written here does not apply to
| you, and you can regard the microphone as a small, not
| particularly good, simple audio interface just like one of
| the boxes you might otherwise connect to you computer._
|
| Yup. This is true. I recommended the Samson Q2U or Q9U in
| no small part because of this. It is a single-purpose audio
| interface and _it 's fine_ for people who want a good-
| sounding Zoom presence. They are also both microphones that
| provide some nontrivial improvement when they are used over
| XLR, which can rationalize _later_ buying an interface once
| you 've decided that you want to do so.
|
| _> If you 're making a podcast, or working with some audio
| where the highest possible fidelity to the original sound
| isn't particularly important, you're probably going to be
| just fine with this resampling taking place. You can use
| your USB mic, the operating system will resample one or
| both audio streams, things will seem to just work, and
| you'll probably be happy with the results._
|
| As it happens, I agree with the general thrust of what
| they're saying--for music. This is a reason why I have a
| very large and moderately expensive digital mixer. But they
| themselves are not intending to cover _general-purpose,
| spoken-word uses_ , like podcasts (which I think one can
| reasonably expand to "teleconferences"), with their
| criticism.
|
| So can you enlighten me as to your point?
| speed_spread wrote:
| I use a Zoom Livetrak L-12 mixer. It's more than just an
| interface but it sounds great and has a excellent functionality
| for the price.
| yootyootr wrote:
| home/hobbyist: Focusrite Scarlett
|
| semi-pro/more serious: MOTU 828
|
| pro/studio level: PRISM Sound Lyra or Titan
| tonyarkles wrote:
| A couple other thoughts for people who are looking around.
|
| - I had a consumer M-Audio interface that was always a bit
| weird. One day well outside the warranty period I popped the
| lid off and discovered a tombstoned resistor and two _bodge
| wires_ on the PCB. I reached out to M-Audio on Twitter and
| the best they could do was offer me a $20 discount on another
| interface. Very unimpressed.
|
| - I replaced it with a Behringer UMC404HD and the very first
| thing I did when it arrived was pop the cover off. I'm an EE
| by trade and I was very impressed by the design. The board
| layout etc was nice, but the part that really surprised me
| was the pre-amps for the mic inputs. Maybe I'm weird for
| feeling this way, but the folks who designed it have _taste_.
| The pre-amps are designed around some NJR op-amps; NJR parts
| are notorious for being slew-rate-limited for a lot of
| applications, but to my ears they sound absolutely buttery
| smooth. The fact that the designers used those parts instead
| of some jelly-bean "flat" op-amps really made me appreciate
| the consideration that went into the design.
|
| Edit: and yes, I know Behringer has a bit of a reputation for
| being "kinda cheap and kinda crappy" but I have zero
| complaints and I've had this unit for a few years now.
| bluGill wrote:
| IIRC the UMC404 was designed just after they bought Midas,
| and those engineers had a lot of input.
|
| Behringer has gotten a lot better, their early days (20
| year ago) they made cheap junk clones. Now they have some
| good gear as well.
|
| Though the company itself has other operating practices
| people don't like. You should for sure do your research on
| them. I have some of their gear, but I'm not sure I'll buy
| more.
| selykg wrote:
| I prefer the Universal Audio Volt series over the Scarlett.
| Plus, if you ever think of upgrading you'll have some
| familiarity with Universal Audio, who is a pretty big player
| in this area. This is coming from a guitarist perspective, in
| case it matters. I really like my Volt.
| wyager wrote:
| The all-aluminum UA volts are made in TW, aluminum-wood
| models are made in CN, FYI. The Volt 1 and Volt 4 are a
| good deal.
|
| Software is atrocious though. Their spyware DRM crashes any
| windows VM I try to install it on.
| krossitalk wrote:
| Focusrite makes higher grade options for the pro studio
| space. They offer a variety of rack mount interfaces.
| wyager wrote:
| What would you say are the distinguishing features between
| home/semi-pro/pro interfaces?
|
| Universal Audio recently released some really nice made-in-
| taiwan desktop interfaces in the same price range as the
| Scarletts. I have scarletts on my rackmount setup, UA Volt on
| my desk.
|
| UA's software is atrocious though. Their spyware DRM crashes
| any windows VM I try to install it on.
|
| Scarlett's software is relatively good by comparison,
| although you have to start their server by hand from the
| terminal if you don't want it running all the time.
| filoleg wrote:
| > What would you say are the distinguishing features
| between home/semi-pro/pro interfaces?
|
| Without going into tons of nitty-gritty details, the major
| ones are the number of inputs/channels, size, and price.
|
| Scarlett 2i2 is more than enough for most people, with its
| 2 channels (both with independently controllable headphone
| and monitor outputs).
|
| Motu 828, the one listed as semi-pro tier, has 20 input
| channels.
|
| I suggest reading reviews of each of them, but basically
| the rule of thumb is that if the review is listing
| bajillion things that you have no understanding of at all,
| you don't need that tier and can safely move to the tier
| below.
|
| No shame in that at all. Even the home/hobby level of audio
| equipment today is functionally crazy, and priced insanely
| cheap compared to just a couple decades ago.
| peepee1982 wrote:
| No RME for semi-pro? Any specific reason?
|
| Because they seem to have great performance and stability on
| Windows.
| Aldipower wrote:
| I have a RME and it does not work with Linux or FreeBSD,
| which is a bummer. So, it is fair not to list it here.
| yootyootr wrote:
| I'm from the UK and they're not well known here versus
| MOTU..
| butterknife wrote:
| Anecdotally, I'd like to disagree. Plenty of RME used in
| professional PA system industry. MOTU, not so much.
| bluGill wrote:
| The PA market and the recording markets are different,
| and there is surprisingly little overlap between the
| people in each.
| Applejinx wrote:
| I would note that MOTU is very solid for Mac-based
| studios, and I've heard that RME is comparably solid for
| PC-based studios.
| SanjayMehta wrote:
| Sounds perfect for an old mac mini I have lying around. FreeBSD
| 12 should work?
| x98asfd wrote:
| Hmm, wouldn't the same work on Linux or other Unixish system?
| themodelplumber wrote:
| Yes, I was running the same setup, sans Qtractor, in 2009
| using a Linux distro.
| ihatepython wrote:
| You're better off running Snow Leopard on an old mac mini for
| pro audio, unless you really just want to play with FreeBSD
| (you'll spend more time configuring your system rather than
| making music)
| frankzander wrote:
| That's often also the problem with Linux and audio. The
| easiest way is to connect Ardour directly through ALSA to an
| audio interface . The second easiest way is IMHO jackd and if
| you want to get in some trouble it's Pipewire (at least
| within the development state mar 2023).
| jeroenhd wrote:
| What's the current problem with Pipewire? Pulse (for simple
| audio stuff) and Jack (for low latency stuff) integrations
| both work fine for me, so I'm wondering what problems
| you've run into recently are.
| bandrami wrote:
| In my recent experience the problem isn't pipewire per se
| but rather how it interacts with rtkit (it's particularly
| bad with the FocusRite interface recommended above for
| home users). You can set it up to request realtime
| capabilities directly but you're going against the
| workflow and at that point you might as well use jack
| since you're going to be fiddling around anyways.
|
| Though honestly, on Linux I just use ALSA for everything
| and don't think about it after that. By definition
| neither Jack nor Pipewire can be faster than the ALSA
| they are talking to.
| smoldesu wrote:
| You're not wrong, and I suspect it has something to do
| with hardware. My Behringer U-Phoria worked fine on
| Linux, then my Scarlett shit itself, then I replaced it
| with a MOTU M2 which does just fine. If you interface
| isn't USB-class-compliant, don't expect it to work on
| Linux.
|
| > By definition neither Jack nor Pipewire can be faster
| than the ALSA they are talking to.
|
| Sure, but that's like saying that you don't need an
| operating system when you can compile to baremetal. Both
| Jack and Pipewire _are_ slower, but offer pretty
| substantial routing options on top of that. Furthermore,
| I believe _both_ protocols support ALSA connections too.
|
| I use Bitwig on NixOS and it's not too bad with PipeWire.
| Latency and routability generally rivals CoreAudio, which
| is good enough for me.
| bandrami wrote:
| IME Bitwig is heavyweight enough it doesn't _really_
| matter what you 're connecting with, plus it "wants"
| Pipewire (IIRC that's the only thing CLAP will work
| with?)
|
| And I don't want to sound like I'm dumping on Pipewire; I
| think the work Wim has been doing is absolutely awesome
| and (unlike a lot of what FDo puts out) actually solves
| existing problems rather than hypothetical ones. It's
| just not quite (yet) what I need as a DJ and looper.
| PaulDavisThe1st wrote:
| Plugin APIs like CLAP have no connection to platform
| audio/midi I/O APIs.
| Applejinx wrote:
| I actually develop modern-day plugins on an old Snow Leopard
| macbook pro, before porting them to other systems and making
| the more modern, signed, M1-enabled versions. I've not run
| across anything that the Snow Leopard box can't handle, at
| least without expecting to run lots of instances of it.
|
| So if you went for a Snow Leopard audio/music machine you'd
| be in good company :)
| LeFantome wrote:
| What are you running for an OS? If it is MacOS, how do any
| of your apps work? I would not think that even recent web
| browsers would install on Snow Leopard.
|
| I put Linux on old Macs precisely because I cannot go a day
| on older MacOS without hitting 10 applications whose latest
| versions I cannot install on MacOS.
|
| If you are not having that problem, I would like to know
| more.
| mixmastamyk wrote:
| One is able to have more than one computer these days.
| Not required that an old one do everything.
| Applejinx wrote:
| Followup post has it figured out. I code initially on the
| SnowMeow laptop, so I can have retro AUs and VSTs: that
| also runs an old Parallels which runs a Windows VM and a
| Linux VM, where those VSTs are made.
|
| All that stuff is old, the laptop's air-gapped and never
| talks to the internet, and I bring the code over on an SD
| card to the Mac Studio where I do the signed versions of
| AU and VST, make the videos, etc.
|
| I also resist 'latest versions' of things quite hard.
| Generally that's not what I want. I want stuff where it's
| working consistently. Even my web browser is a Chromium
| picked specifically so I can be sure it will get old and
| go out of date until _I_ have a reason to change it,
| which will doubtless happen but it'll happen when I want.
|
| I can't imagine running Snow Leopard but also feeling
| like you have to run the newest of everything. It can't
| even run a remotely current web browser. You have to
| already have programs that will be exactly what you want
| and need. Then, you use those and get used to them, like
| cooking with an old chef's knife you've had for decades
| :)
| jna_sh wrote:
| Contents of the article aside, I'm intrigued by that Thinkpad
| with what appears to be a graphics tablet in the palm rest.
| Anyone know what model that is?
| ianai wrote:
| It's labeled W701. Probably from quite a few years ago.
| NikkiA wrote:
| From about 16 years ago, it also has a slide-out second
| monitor on the side that was an interesting idea, but
| effectively useless.
|
| Here's an image of one with the monitor slid-out:
|
| http://www.tabletsnlaptops.com/laptop-images/lenovo-
| thinkPad...
| Pfiffer wrote:
| Thats only the DS variant of the W700/W701, some of them
| are just normal workstations, too.
| voxadam wrote:
| Out of curiosity, what makes the second monitor
| "effectively useless"?
| larrywright wrote:
| It looks tiny. I would guess that it's just not enough
| usable screen real estate.
| cyrialize wrote:
| Looks like a W701 or W701ds. The W701ds had the graphics tablet
| and pull out screen. Very rare, I wish I had one just for the
| novelty!
| voytec wrote:
| Two pairs of physical "mouse" buttons - one for the touchpad
| and second for trackpoint (red "dot") - look quite unusual.
|
| Especially in comparison to the new Z13 model[1] in which
| Lenovo has ditched buttons-buttons on top of the touchpad in
| favor of an area of touchpad acting as buttons for both
| trackpoint and touchpad. My T-series has physical buttons-
| buttons for the trackpoint on top of the touchpad and bottom
| area of the touchpad acting as buttons for the touchpad. I
| haven't tested neither Z13 model (not yet released) nor the old
| W-series but I think Z-series may be a downgrade.
|
| Seriously, the trackpoint/touchbar from MacBooks is the only
| thing I miss after switching to ThinkPads.
|
| [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34954787
| goosedragons wrote:
| Lenovo keeps trying to kill the trackpoint. With the T440
| they also killed the trackpoint physical buttons but people
| HATED it so they brought them back for future T series
| devices. The Z line is their attempt to do it again. I hope
| it stays contained there.
| Pfiffer wrote:
| The W700/W701 had an embedded Wacom tablet option
| partomniscient wrote:
| From the article: jackd_args="-r -d oss -r44000
| -p1024 -n2 -w16 -i4 -o8 -C /dev/dsp0 -P /dev/dsp0"
|
| I'm presuming the rate _" oss -r44000"_ should actually be _" oss
| -r 44100"_ for normal audio (or 48000 for audio to be embedded in
| video output, 48000 also appears to be the default rate).
| vermaden wrote:
| Fixed. Thanks.
| grepfru_it wrote:
| I really support FreeBSD whenever I can, but not here. Linux,
| ubuntu specifically, out of the box can have an audio workstation
| ready to go within 10 minutes of installation. Not to mention you
| get a much larger array of software and VST plugins. When you
| consider hardware support, its almost a nobrainer. However
| FreeBSD is probably a bit more stable with jack in realtime mode.
|
| 10 years ago, I used to run Linux as my effects processor for my
| guitar and keyboard synth when I was in a band. That same laptop
| also ran projectm to display realtime visuals on our backdrop.
| erybodyknows wrote:
| Would love to see a write up with more detail on this! I love
| Ableton but it does not play nice with Linux.
| grepfru_it wrote:
| Wonderful idea, I shall commit to a blog post about it and
| share it this week. I will note that oss apps do not hold a
| candle to most professional apps. That said, you can make all
| of the popular effects yourself, you just really need to
| understand your synth/vst/daw
| bluGill wrote:
| I have a machine running ubuntu studio. While it is easy to get
| up and going, the upgrades over the years have not been smooth.
| I'm thinking about going back to FreeBSD because long term it
| is easier to upgrade. pkg is an amazing system that beats dpkg
| or rpm (it took 10-15 years to get ahead though)
| voytec wrote:
| > pkg is an amazing system that beats dpkg or rpm
|
| What's your reasoning for this statement? I find poudriere[1]
| handy for compiling one's own packages from ports configured
| to fit one's goals, but I see nothing outstanding in plain
| pkg.
|
| It has issues when there's an IPv6 address up (even link-
| local) but no egress v6 routing. It would hang and wait for a
| timeout when an IPv6 address is selected from resolved
| addresses. After a timeout - pkg connects to v4 endpoint but
| if there's several packages to be downloaded, it can fall
| back to trying to connect to v6 with the next package.
|
| On the other hand, I've recently had Ubuntu 22.04 register
| Python-related packages which were not successfully
| installed, resulting in all dpkg/apt/apt-get commands failing
| due to py3clean script throwing tracebacks, until
| /var/lib/dpkg/status was edited and these packages were in
| fact installed and then removed.
|
| [1] https://github.com/freebsd/poudriere/wiki
| asveikau wrote:
| Not op here, but: I think the philosophy of ports and
| packages (shared with other BSDs) has an upside over dpkg
| and rpm in that you can customize options when you build
| from source. The downside is that building from source
| takes a long time.
|
| If you follow Debian testing or sid, you will experience a
| lot of dependency breakage that I've never seen on a BSD,
| but that may not be dpkg or apt's fault so much as ongoing
| package maintenance causing those issues.
| ArchOversight wrote:
| > It has issues when there's an IPv6 address up (even link-
| local) but no egress v6 routing.
|
| I have multiple FreeBSD machines, all of them with IPv6 up
| on link-local, and pkg doesn't hang at all. Even without
| valid globally unique IPv6 addressing, but valid ULA
| addressing (unique local address) and valid routing for
| IPv6 on an internal network, no issues.
|
| It sounds like you've got some globally unique IPv6
| addresses assigned to an interface somewhere and address
| selection (and thus the addresses returned from
| getaddrinfo) will return IPv6 first and try that before
| falling back to IPv4.
|
| You can configure this address selection by using the
| ip6addrctl tool which will allow you to validate and change
| that address selection.
|
| It is based upon https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3484
|
| FreeBSD also has predefined policies you can set in
| /etc/rc.conf:
|
| ip6addrctl_enable="YES" # Set to YES to enable default
| address selection ip6addrctl_verbose="NO" # Set to YES to
| enable verbose configuration messages
| ip6addrctl_policy="AUTO" # A pre-defined address selection
| policy # (ipv4_prefer, ipv6_prefer, or AUTO)
| bluGill wrote:
| That you can mix ports and pkg is a big deal. 99% of the
| time the default binary pkg is good enough, but that last
| 1% I can get the exact options I want.
|
| I haven't used IPv6 with pkg though. (stupid ISPs).
| p0w3n3d wrote:
| I have very bad experience trying to run windows VSTs on Linux
| with wine - since then (2011) i switched to windows. Is it
| better now?
| PaulDavisThe1st wrote:
| If you actually _need_ Windows VSTs in your workflow, then it
| would still be best to run Windows. However, yabridge is
| pretty amazing these days (still, however, utterly dependent
| on the ever-shifting sands of what Wine does).
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