[HN Gopher] Canada starts investigating TikTok over data collect...
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Canada starts investigating TikTok over data collection from young
users
Author : elorant
Score : 57 points
Date : 2023-02-26 18:22 UTC (4 hours ago)
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| donmcronald wrote:
| > "The joint inquiry will concentrate on TikTok's privacy
| policies in relation to younger users, including whether the
| business acquired legitimate and meaningful consent from these
| users for the gathering, use, and disclosure of their personal
| information."
|
| How many people, let alone kids, read the privacy policy before
| clicking "I Agree"?
|
| This is nothing more than political grandstanding IMO and I hate
| it. I also think it's a prelude to some kind of verified identity
| system and that's why the big tech companies are pushing their
| passwordless schemes.
|
| My biggest concern is that eventually everything will require a
| verified identity from one of the big tech companies and
| Microsoft/Google/Apple/Facebook will become the gatekeepers of
| everything. I wouldn't be surprised if we hit 2030 and it's
| considered normal to get your kid a digital ID when they're born.
|
| Instead of pushing things towards centralized ID schemes to
| "protect the children," we need an outright ban on tracking,
| profiling, etc.. We're going to end up in a world where big tech
| tracks every move you make and feeds that data into crappy, over-
| promised "AI" systems so they can sell that data to all of the
| institutions that we rely on.
|
| How great is it going to be if your kid gets profiled by AI and
| flagged as having a predisposition to criminal activity?
| xattt wrote:
| > ... Google/Apple/Facebook will become the gatekeepers of
| everything.
|
| If that comes to pass, it will likely come with legislated
| service and privacy guarantees.
| anaganisk wrote:
| Yes may be in EU and California, but a far fetched dream in
| countries like UK, US, India etc. Funny enough, India already
| has an ID system that requires every citizen to be enrolled
| in even children who also have biometrics integration. And I
| can guarantee you, majority dont give a damm about privacy
| and call anyone anti-national who point out flaws. Will just
| leave this here.
|
| https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/attorney-general-gets-
| roast...
| [deleted]
| Proven wrote:
| [dead]
| mantas wrote:
| Next problem, how do we make sure tracking and profiling isn't
| happening under the table? Or more likely in an (most of the
| time) unplugged server in the back of the server room.
| cld8483 wrote:
| This app should have been banned from both appstores when it was
| found to be exfiltrating all clipboard data. Insane that it's
| still permitted by Apple and Google after such an obvious display
| of malevolence.
| srcreigh wrote:
| What other explanation is there for this other than some type
| of china-USA (or global) conspiracy?
|
| I suppose it's the threat of TikTok paving the way for non App
| Store deployments. Reducing power of the app stores.
|
| Or maybe it's US companies believing they can use permission
| systems to tame the information flow to TikTok servers.
| coldtea wrote:
| > _What other explanation is there for this other than some
| type of china-USA (or global) conspiracy?_
|
| Perhaps the fact that every other major social company has
| been found of doing the same (Facebook and Google multiple
| times) and yet nothing happened to their apps, at best they
| got a "slap on the wrist" at times...
|
| The focus on Tik-Tok is more about a shot in the US-China
| trade and geopolitical rivarly than because it's somehow
| unique
| srcreigh wrote:
| For me the geopolitics are a lot more adversarial than
| that. For ex can't use FB or Google in China why - its
| American espionage against Chinese citizens. The question
| is why America (via Apple/Google) are allowing TikTok to
| spy on American citizens.
| coldtea wrote:
| The same Apple and Google (and Facebook) that have been caught
| doing similar shit time and again?
|
| https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/18/technology/facebook-priva...
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| https://appleinsider.com/articles/12/02/17/google_reportedly...
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| https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052970204880404577225...
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| https://www.cpomagazine.com/data-privacy/privacy-lawsuits-ac...
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| https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2022/09/22/face...
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| https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/22/meta-lawsuit-ios-privacy/
|
| https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2022/09/facebook-user...
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| https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/google-says-it-doesnt-...
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| https://www.reuters.com/article/us-alphabet-google-privacy-l...
| xyzelement wrote:
| It seems to be the lesser of the issues with ticktok. Far bigger
| deal is the direct channel into the brains of North Americans
| (especially young ones) in control of a geopolitical adversary.
| Nextgrid wrote:
| Great, merely a few years overdue.
| MonkeyMalarky wrote:
| Yes. This is the Canadian government in a nutshell. Its like
| the saying "no one has been fired for choosing IBM", the
| government here runs on always making the safest, least boat-
| rocking decisions. Oftentimes, not doing anything at all. For
| decades on end.
| moremetadata wrote:
| The state has been collecting data on young people for decades,
| why should they have a monopoly, where they can choose who is
| going to fail in order to reinforce the states existence when
| kids reach adulthood and a life of crime?
| Teever wrote:
| Why do you think that the Canadian government shouldn't be
| allowed to implement laws surrounding the data acquisition and
| storage by private entities?
|
| Is there some sort of clause in the Canadian charter that
| supports your claim?
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