[HN Gopher] The toxic tide of ship breaking
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The toxic tide of ship breaking
Author : whalesalad
Score : 39 points
Date : 2023-02-23 01:11 UTC (21 hours ago)
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| SoftTalker wrote:
| Lots of video of these operations on YouTube. Some of it is shot
| clandestinely because the ship breakers don't want the working
| conditions to be public.
| just_steve_h wrote:
| The author Paolo Bacigalupi has a great sci-fi story set in the
| Gulf Coast of the near future, centering on a teenage boy who
| works as the titular Ship Breaker [1].
|
| Even though it is technically "young adult" fiction, I found
| plenty to enjoy for this middle-aged reader.
|
| His novel The Water Knife is also excellent and more "grown up."
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| [1] https://windupstories.com/books/ship-breaker/
| kristianp wrote:
| I enjoyed ship breaker too. Didn't realise it was the first of
| a trilogy. The windup girl was good too, although I found the
| coal power and other steampunk stuff a little distracting.
| jmclnx wrote:
| Talk about a dystopian industry. Working conditions look very
| bad.
|
| And from the pics, the workers are all barefooted, they must get
| lots of injuries from scrap metal all over the beach.
| aziaziazi wrote:
| Does anyone have reliable data on this ? The articles states
| Alang ships breaking currently employed 15k people for 75% of
| global market. En Wikipedia source [0] says 30% for 2020 and hope
| for 60 in the future.
|
| 0 https://m.economictimes.com/industry/transportation/shipping...
| luhn wrote:
| The article does _not_ state Alang breaks 75% of ships, it says
| "about 75% of [ships] end up in one of the three beaches in
| South Asia." Presumably these three beaches are Alang, India;
| Gadani, Pakistan; and Chittagong, Bangladesh mentioned earlier
| in the article.
| aziaziazi wrote:
| Didn't read wisely, thank to point this out.
| Joe8Bit wrote:
| I visited Chittagong a decade or so ago (as part of a non-profit
| working with child workers) and I can only emphasise what a
| visceral and horrifying thing this kind of ship breaking is to
| witness. 10,000's of people (as young as 6/7) working 24/7 in
| conditions that bear absolutely no respect for their health or
| safety.
|
| One of the most morally repugnant parts of the Western legal
| system is the creation of the labyrinthine corporate structures
| used to to protect the ship owners for any liability as part of
| their ships being broken.
| version_five wrote:
| Is it more horrifying than them starving to death though or
| doing some worse job? I agree the conditions sound horrible,
| but it's still bringing jobs and money. Is making it illegal or
| uneconomical going to result in a better quality of life for
| the people that work there and their families?
| rad_gruchalski wrote:
| Right? Like those people in China who were so happy to break,
| split, sort and burn the plastic waste we used to send them
| back in the day. Why don't they want it anymore? They should
| have been grateful. At least they had jobs. Otherwise who
| knows what they would have been doing!
| jpollock wrote:
| By the time they're beached, they're not owned by a Western
| company. They've been sold for scrap to the scrappers.
|
| "right now, selling a vessel to a beaching facility would get
| maybe $500 (PS371) per tonne."
|
| https://www.chemistryworld.com/features/the-toxic-tide-of-sh...
| metadat wrote:
| You can actually see it on Google Earth if you put in the
| coordinates for the city of Alang in the Gulf of Khambhat:
| 21deg23'37"N 72deg10'40"E
|
| It's an enormous operation, and there is a large trauma medical
| center nearby. Also, the Gulf of Khambhat is a remarkably
| disgusting shade of brown.
|
| https://goo.gl/maps/Tk2sqMP6aHFVME1BA (warning: Maps is not as
| good as Google Earth view, especially on mobile)
|
| > even the asbestos will be resold
|
| This is a surprise. Who's in the market for some second hand
| asbestos?
| greenmana wrote:
| From what it looks like that's some ten kilometers or 6,2 miles
| of scrapping beach, crazy.
| hummus_bae wrote:
| [dead]
| literalAardvark wrote:
| They're probably putting it in climbing chalk or something.
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