[HN Gopher] Why aren't teenagers driving anymore?
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       Why aren't teenagers driving anymore?
        
       Author : bookofjoe
       Score  : 11 points
       Date   : 2023-02-21 20:41 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.washingtonpost.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.washingtonpost.com)
        
       | thanatos519 wrote:
       | I was a teenager until 30 years ago and I still don't know how to
       | drive.
       | 
       | From the article: << "Like, when we're out of tomatoes," Johnson
       | says, and laughs, "I want to be able to say, 'Hey, I need
       | tomatoes. Go to the store and get a tomato.'" >>
       | 
       | This sounds like a symptom of either rural living, or poor urban
       | planning. I've never lived more than a 10 minute bike ride away
       | from ... well ... anything I might need on short notice.
        
       | duped wrote:
       | This article is missing a discussion over the rise in car, fuel,
       | and insurance prices during the same time period that teen
       | driving fell.
       | 
       | That and the fact the average miles driven dropped nationally
       | during the early pandemic, and legally mandated behind-the-wheel
       | courses stopped right when these 18 year olds should have been
       | getting their licenses.
        
       | LAC-Tech wrote:
       | _Teens can summon an Uber or Lyft with the tap of a finger._
       | 
       | The Washington Post with their fingers on the pulse of working
       | class families here.
        
         | crazygringo wrote:
         | Getting the occasional Lyft/Uber is a heck of a lot cheaper
         | than buying a second (or third) car. Even for working class
         | families.
         | 
         | Taking one twice a day, of course, not so much.
        
           | 7speter wrote:
           | There was a such thing as cheap beaters not too long ago...
        
       | codevark wrote:
       | [dead]
        
       | nh23423fefe wrote:
       | Going places sucks. It costs money and takes time to get everyone
       | there let alone coordinate. Locking yourself in your room works
       | great to get away from parents and lurking on discord is easier
       | than meeting up.
        
         | LAC-Tech wrote:
         | Back when I worked at an office I used to commute by bicycle on
         | a route that took me past a high school.
         | 
         | Often I was the only one on a bicycle, most of the actual
         | students were all being dropped off. Made me a bit sad, I had
         | fond memories of congregating at the bike sheds before and
         | after school.
        
       | lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote:
       | > Parents can monitor a child's every move through an app.
       | 
       | I cannot imagine anything that would be more likely to train an
       | entire generation to simply leave their phone at home.
        
       | trasz3 wrote:
       | Car company marketing isn't working anymore?
        
         | 7speter wrote:
         | Cars just cost too much period, because now every car has to
         | have touch screen entertainment systems, electric door latch
         | systems, backup cameras (this is required by law), and corollas
         | probably have an option for heated leather seats. Oh, and then
         | your insurance is based on the all the people around you buying
         | these cars around you and getting them into accidents, and
         | fender benders cost 6-8k to fix nowadays.
        
       | bookofjoe wrote:
       | https://archive.ph/4B7D1
        
       | coldtea wrote:
       | One other reason is that there are fewer places to go.
       | 
       | A lot of entertainment (or "entertainment") happens inside:
       | games, doom-scrolling, and so on. And there's online ordering
       | too. And the public space is deteriorating in many places.
       | 
       | Teenagers used to go to places to meet their pals and find some
       | shit to do in "meatspace", public parks, various hangouts, and
       | back in the day malls. Today? Not so much.
       | 
       | For many there's also probably less hanky panky (which was in the
       | past associated with cars, teenagers often lacking an available
       | house with understanding parents) and more loneliness compared to
       | past decades (according to various reports).
        
         | janalsncm wrote:
         | Without a doubt. Malls are dying if not dead. I would bet money
         | there is nearly a 1:1 relationship with the decline in teen
         | driving.
        
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