[HN Gopher] Using AI tools to design an entire website
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Using AI tools to design an entire website
Author : thisdickie
Score : 75 points
Date : 2023-02-19 19:29 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| toiletfuneral wrote:
| As a designer none of these make me worried about my skill set,
| they all look pretty bad with the slightest amount of attention.
|
| The real concern is how ugly a world the capitalists are willing
| accept to cut labor costs, and we know the answer, just look what
| capitalism did architecture. Dogshit buildings everywhere
| designed by contractors to avoid skilled labor. What an ugly time
| to be alive
| kypro wrote:
| I doubt profit hungry capitalists are your main concern, but
| your average struggling startup or entrepreneur.
|
| At a startup I worked for we spent about PS10,000 just on our
| brand and website design. That was a big chunk of our budget
| and I'm genuinely not sure that would be needed anymore. I
| think I could probably prompt AI to design a site and logo
| roughly as good.
| [deleted]
| ericmcer wrote:
| This page isn't something the AI built, the AI built
| specifically defined pieces of it and the author assembled
| those into the page using Webflow. I feel like their claim of
| "no-code" is a bit suspect. Embedding an AI generated block of
| code into a Webflow site has nothing to do with AI generating a
| website. If I add a block of AI generated code to a pull
| request that isn't "Using AI to write an entire PR".
|
| AI still feels like self-driving cars to me. People saw some
| shadow of success there and said "by 2020 cars won't even have
| steering wheels" but who knows now if we will ever see them. I
| could be totally wrong, but my prediction is we see a ton of
| cool stuff but getting that last 5% down to where we can
| actually trust AI to run the show will not happen for a long
| time if ever.
| echelon wrote:
| This is day one.
|
| You're seeing the results of amateurs adapting unspecialized
| tools. They're using minimal effort and still deriving head
| turning results.
|
| A great analogy might be all the folks making Geocities
| websites back in '99. Look at how far we've come from that. Can
| you even fathom where we'll be in five years? (Or even just
| this fall, given the pace of research and new startups
| optimizing models/workflows?)
|
| These tools are going to be specially purposed for every domain
| soon. VC is going to pour into every possible optimization
| niche, and talented teams will build specially purposed tools
| that put entire careers on easy mode.
|
| This is good. We shouldn't want to write HTML any more than we
| should want to churn butter.
|
| The job of designer will change to incorporate the new
| workflows. But everything else will also change. Websites of
| 2000-2020 will look as dated as magazine ads. New websites will
| be rich and interactive as never before.
|
| This is the biggest boom and shakeup of our industry perhaps
| ever. Get excited by the opportunities. You're not going to
| have to work like a caveman designer anymore. You'll be a year
| 2080 designer before the decade ends.
| minusf wrote:
| is that you sidney?
| [deleted]
| jfvinueza wrote:
| how do magazine ads look dated?
| grugagag wrote:
| > Websites of 2000-2020 will look as dated as magazine ads.
| New websites will be rich and interactive as never before.
|
| Why? Do we need any of that aside from specialized tools
| (e.g. data intensive) for which it actually makes sense to
| use tried and proven tech?
|
| Im sure new things are going to come out of AI, they're
| already becoming obvious. But using AI to build things we
| already know how to do and just add more complexity is bound
| to not go anywhere useful in my opinion.
| gtirloni wrote:
| _> New websites will be rich and interactive as never
| before._
|
| So Flash is making a comeback?
| toiletfuneral wrote:
| [dead]
| sebzim4500 wrote:
| >Dogshit buildings everywhere designed by contractors to avoid
| skilled labor.
|
| This seems to be the opinion of everyone on HN, but I never
| encounter this in real life (and do not agree with it myself).
| Where I live (mainly London, but I've spent a bit of time in
| some US cities as well) the buildings being built/applying for
| planning permission look pretty good. It's the ones built in
| the late 20th century that are hideous.
| oldstrangers wrote:
| It's so close to being decent but if you lack the design
| sensibilities to see it through and guide the process, it's kind
| of a mess.
|
| People think AI is going to bridge some talent disparity between
| designers and developers vs non-technical types (and it probably
| will someday). But currently, AI is just acting like an infinity
| gauntlet with the designers and developers still holding all the
| stones.
| Severian wrote:
| "I haven't found a workaround for this yet but I can imagine this
| would be a game changer if future improvements allow precise
| blending placement from one image to another."
|
| ControlNet allows you to sketch or use a pre-existing sketch to
| then use as the basis for image generation. Allows for very,
| ahem, /stable/ variations between different sub-prompts.
| joe_the_user wrote:
| It's entertaining to have an AI create a fantasy web page for a
| fantasy product that's clearly not serious. Entertaining but I
| see it sooooo much now that it's kind of wearing off.
|
| However I'd like to see AI create a web page for an product
| that's appealing and plausible. This would be closer to seeing if
| the AI as a human replacement or not.
| awb wrote:
| I used to run a design agency catering to tech startups. I've
| tried dozens of times to produce something that looks better
| than a free template for a personal site or a tech startup and
| came up well short every time.
|
| The high quality designs I have seen were for:
|
| * Nike shoes
|
| * Jetskis
|
| * A donut shop
|
| AI web design is not ready for prime time yet.
| sublinear wrote:
| I'm still baffled how so many people are willing to gloss over
| all the heavy lifting the user has to do to glue all this
| together. Organizing a project is still and always has been the
| majority of the work!
| vsareto wrote:
| It'd probably take them a lot longer to learn to make the
| images than to organize a project (which is something they
| already know how to do). Doubly so for the video clip.
|
| Plus this was mostly copy/paste - that's not heavy lifting!
| beepbooptheory wrote:
| Appreciate the effort but these demos have really quickly become
| so boring. If you can design an entire website with the AI tools,
| it appears its almost certainly a website you don't need to
| create in the first place. Either it has already essentially been
| made by somebody who actually understood and cared about the
| code, or it's such a trivial mix of stuff you're better off
| making a squarespace site or whatever. At least that is hardened
| and tested as a product.
|
| Like, we should maybe give pause to the fact that this is at
| least the 20th demo specifically about "making a website." If
| this technology is so powerful, saves so much time, democratizes
| the profession so much, etc why are the demos all the same?
| Either people are unimaginative, which they are not, or perhaps
| this is pretty much what we can get from this in general.
|
| Coding involve care and inspiration, and should not necessarily
| be reinventing the wheel again and again, even if youre getting
| the AI to do the reinvention for you.
|
| But beyond any principled thoughts, just not seeing the returns
| here that people are trying to get me to see. Lots of laymen have
| been making wonderful websites for 30 years. Its cool the
| computer knows what css people have been using for those decades,
| but it only makes brittle uninspired things that only
| incidentally work.
|
| I'd really like to know, beyond the hype, if any serious
| engineers have actually used this stuff for an extended amount of
| time. Ive tried and tried to use it and convince myself its
| helping me, but it just leads to so much frustration with the
| hallucinations and misunderstandings and schizophrenic
| comprehension of its own context..
| pmlnr wrote:
| Looking at these makes me think I should retreat to gopher.
| [deleted]
| cammikebrown wrote:
| I've gotten a (very) basic website done via Chat-GPT in about
| five minutes. Very static but you can ask it to do fancier stuff
| and it seems to work all right.
| shostack wrote:
| It can do basic rails stuff. But I do wonder what options there
| are to train it on your codebase for even a small project so it
| can just know what files to edit and that to name things.
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