[HN Gopher] The Lapdock Kit
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       The Lapdock Kit
        
       Author : marcodiego
       Score  : 51 points
       Date   : 2023-02-18 19:20 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | bitL wrote:
       | It would be great if PineBook allowed internal display input not
       | just external display output to function both as a laptop and
       | lapdock.
        
       | femiagbabiaka wrote:
       | I'm still waiting on delivery of a Librem 5 I purchased in 2021.
       | So while it's a cool product, that's about it.
        
         | seba_dos1 wrote:
         | Librem 5 was a crowdfunded project that started shipping
         | backorders in 2020, which was also the year of great supply
         | chain disruptions and in the end it's still going through the
         | shipping queue. It has just reached mid-2019 orders, but things
         | got better now and you should get yours in a matter of months:
         | https://puri.sm/posts/where-is-my-librem-5-part-2/
        
           | femiagbabiaka wrote:
           | I'll believe it when I see it. :)
        
         | steponlego wrote:
         | I ordered mine in _2017_ and it 's still not here.
        
       | ppseafield wrote:
       | I have a NexDock 360, which I have primarily used with a Samsung
       | S21 but also with a PinePhone.
       | 
       | The NexDock 360 is an OK device. The battery life lasted me about
       | 2-3 hours, which isn't long enough for me. On Android with DeX
       | there is no palm rejection, so I ended up keeping the touchpad
       | switched off most of the time. PureOS might handle this better.
       | The screen has touch input, but it's a pretty poor display -
       | colors are washed out, and it isn't terribly bright.
       | 
       | It was nice to be able to take notes without carrying around a
       | full laptop, and I think with a better screen and battery life it
       | would be much more useful for traveling. It has a mini HDMI port,
       | and I did use it as a third monitor for my laptop for a bit, but
       | I eventually just got another desktop monitor with a better
       | screen.
        
         | pengaru wrote:
         | Isn't the battery life going to be much less than those phones
         | with a Librem 5?
        
           | ppseafield wrote:
           | I can't speak to the battery life of the Librem 5. You can
           | choose to charge the phone or not charge the phone through
           | the NextDock 360 pop-up menu, which can help it last a little
           | longer.
        
         | ryukafalz wrote:
         | > On Android with DeX there is no palm rejection, so I ended up
         | keeping the touchpad switched off most of the time.
         | 
         | This has been my experience on Linux as well with my NexDock
         | Touch. As best I can tell the touchpad is only presented to the
         | OS as a mouse, so it can't do palm rejection in software (and
         | you'll never get those fancy multitouch gestures in e.g.
         | GNOME).
         | 
         | The only lapdock I've ever used that did this right is the HP
         | Elite X3's lapdock. It's thus my favorite of the ones that
         | exist, but it can't seem to supply enough power over USB-C to
         | charge a lot of devices during use including the Librem 5.
         | Still holding out for one with both the touchpad (and keyboard)
         | quality of the HP lapdock and the power output of the NexDock.
         | (I suspect I'll be waiting a while though, it's a very niche
         | product.)
        
         | gavinray wrote:
         | I didn't know something like this existed, thanks for a
         | thorough review
         | 
         | I want something like this for reading PDFs (in tablet mode)
         | and possibly coding from my phone, that I can carry around in
         | my backpack when I'd rather not bring my whole laptop too.
        
           | ppseafield wrote:
           | I found reading on this screen to be pretty mediocre, and it
           | is quite large to be held like a tablet (but possible, if
           | awkward).
           | 
           | If you would like to code on your phone, you would most
           | likely need something browser based, or something running
           | Linux like the Librem 5 here. It's not as easy to set up a
           | decent development environment using Android.
        
             | gavinray wrote:
             | Ah I hadn't considered it would be too large to be held
             | like that, thanks for the heads up
        
               | ppseafield wrote:
               | Indeed, it is 13" and not as skinny as a tablet.
        
       | singron wrote:
       | Is scrolling broken on this page? On mobile it seems to jump
       | around a little.
        
       | paulhart wrote:
       | Reminds me of this successful Kickstarter that failed to deliver
       | (I was a backer):
       | https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/andromium/the-superbook...
        
         | pram wrote:
         | I had a Motorola Atrix a decade ago that did this. It still
         | looks extremely modern.
         | 
         | Shame "phone as a computer" hasn't really gone anywhere in all
         | this time.
        
           | ppseafield wrote:
           | Indeed. Even before this the Nokia N900 could run a Debian
           | desktop.
           | 
           | I found Samsung DeX to be usable, if a bit awkward at times.
           | By far the most annoying limitation was being limited to
           | Android and not being able to install more powerful software.
           | Termux is stuck on a version in the Google play store because
           | apps may not longer be published using some features Termux
           | requires.
           | 
           | Years ago Microsoft did try the other way around - making
           | Windows into a touch/mobile interface - but made both the
           | desktop and mobile experiences a bit worse. Several linux-
           | based projects are attempting to bridge the gap there, but
           | they are often limited by compatible hardware and a lack of
           | openness mobile device component manufacturers exhibit.
           | 
           | Google and Apple have very little economic incentive to open
           | up their ecosystems. It really shows comparing how open
           | Android used to be in comparison to how it is now.
        
           | wingmanjd wrote:
           | I miss the Atrix. The desktop mode running Ubuntu was great
           | at the time, and once jailbroken, could install normal
           | packages, which turned it into a great remote access machine
           | between Remmina and terminal.
        
         | wingmanjd wrote:
         | I think I was one of the few lucky ones. I think I was one of
         | the last batches shipped. I also had the Gen 1 Motorola Atrix's
         | as well. I so badly want a truly ubiquitous device, but the few
         | iterations I've tried just don't quite make it there.
        
       | haswell wrote:
       | I owned the Motorola Atrix [0] way back when, which also offered
       | a "Lapdock" accessory. It was way ahead of its time, and I always
       | found it unfortunate that it never took off.
       | 
       | Even though the phone is long dead/gone, the Motorola Lapdock
       | turned out to be fairly hackable, and I was able to repurpose it
       | to be a screen for a Raspberry Pi.
       | 
       | It's cool to see some version of this tech return. Current phones
       | are far more capable of delivering what the Atrix promised.
       | 
       | - [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Atrix_4G
        
       | trynewideas wrote:
       | This kit, as noted on the page, is just the NexDock,[1] which
       | itself is essentially a DisplayPort-over-USB-C or mini-HDMI 13"
       | 16:9 1080p touchscreen display on a fold-over hinge, keyboard,
       | trackpad, speakers, micro SDXC reader, headphone jack, and 44Wh
       | battery in a 1.2kg laptop shell.
       | 
       | The NexDock is $299 and its desktop mode features are already
       | compatible with several Samsung, Huawei, Motorola, and a few
       | other Android phones with video output. Since it's basically just
       | a display, it also works with any USB-C/HDMI device, including
       | Raspberry Pis, Steam Decks and other PCs, Nintendo Switches, etc.
       | 
       | Purism charges $40 more and adds a magnetic mount (if not this
       | $15 mount on Amazon,[2] then one very similar to it) and USB-C
       | cable.
       | 
       | 1: https://nexdock.com/explore-nexdock/
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       | 2: https://www.amazon.com/Magnetic-Desktop-Monitor-Foldable-
       | Por...
        
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