[HN Gopher] Gary Hunt, the greatest cliff diver
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Gary Hunt, the greatest cliff diver
Author : robaato
Score : 41 points
Date : 2023-02-16 07:26 UTC (15 hours ago)
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| kevinali1 wrote:
| Messi can be compared to billions of ppl are the world who play
| or dabble in football. This dude can be compared to what - a
| couple thousand?
| __derek__ wrote:
| The Messi comparison threw me, too. Maybe Alex Honnold would be
| a better comparison, or Ueli Steck for the European audience.
| swores wrote:
| As a European (a Brit) I haven't personally heard of either
| of those two people. Whereas I do know Messi, and I assume by
| comparing to him they mean "someone with rare skill for doing
| what they do better than anyone else (probably while making
| it look easier than it is)".
|
| Anecdote of 1 of course... but I'd also guess that I'm not an
| outlier, and Messi is much better known than your two
| suggestions in pretty much any country.
| __derek__ wrote:
| Consider my comment in the context of the one that I
| replied to: I named big-wall climbers because their sport
| is similarly extreme and unusual in the broader population,
| unlike soccer/football which is neither.
|
| As for the climbers, Honnold achieved some normie fame as
| the subject of an Oscar-winning documentary[1]. Steck was
| also among the best climbers ever, but his speed records
| centered on the Alps (hence my joking aside about the Euro
| audience).
|
| [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Solo
| bleuuuu wrote:
| cant wait until he becomes the Jordan of the sport
| ultrasounder wrote:
| He has already completed cliff diving. Messi style. But, If he
| wants to start a cliff diving shorts brand empire sure. Then
| "Air Hunt it is.
| 867-5309 wrote:
| the arab nation or the British model?
| evrimoztamur wrote:
| "He is, unquestionably, the greatest cliff diver of all time,
| "the Michael Jordan, the Muhammad Ali, the Tiger Woods" of the
| sport, as Steven LoBue, an American diver who had the
| misfortune of competing against Hunt for many years, put it in
| 2021."
| dr-detroit wrote:
| [dead]
| rsyring wrote:
| > Gary Hunt was 24, skinny and pale. He was still so
| inexperienced from such heights that he wore two pairs of Speedos
| for extra protection.
|
| So, it's the second pair of speedos that ups the protection? Is
| one pair that much better than two pair when hitting the water at
| 50 MPH?
| dang wrote:
| Ok you guys, I've taken the Messi bit out of the title above.
| Please focus on something more interesting now.
| aliqot wrote:
| [flagged]
| zwirbl wrote:
| Messi has no trainer and no ego. Good one
| cobertos wrote:
| Interesting that Red Bull didn't respond to his request for
| sponsorship. He said himself that he doesn't fit the mold (no
| self promotion, plays piano, no other extreme sports), but that
| seems like it might be a great strength, to attract a different
| audience? An odd introvert looked up to by other odd introverts?
|
| Or maybe everything about marketing/advertising will always lean
| towards catering to extroverts/neurotypical people.
|
| (Also unrelated, I wonder if there is a link between less anxiety
| and getting into an "instinctual" state. Like how he does
| juggling before a dive)
| hummus_bae wrote:
| > but that seems like it might be a great strength, to attract
| a different audience?
|
| No. It's a liability. Brands are about focusing on niche
| markets with common interests.
|
| > Or maybe everything about marketing/advertising will always
| lean towards catering to extroverts/neurotypical people.
|
| No. It's about being able to sell to them and promote to them.
| Being able to promote what you're selling is a prerequisite to
| being able to sell it.
| cobertos wrote:
| > No. It's a liability. Brands are about focusing on niche
| markets with common interests.
|
| A fair assessment.
|
| > No. It's about being able to sell to them and promote to
| them. Being able to promote what you're selling is a
| prerequisite to being able to sell it.
|
| I'm not sure what your "no" is disagreeing with here. Is it
| that marketing will not have a lean because they will always
| choose to market toward their audience?
|
| I would disagree with that. Marketing/advertisers think in
| generalizations. The formal processes of audience description
| and creating example personas are fully based on those
| generalizations. These methods are extremely helpful, I've
| done them before myself, and they produce useful methodology
| and next steps.
|
| But these generalizations are built on popular culture, which
| is dictated by societal normalcy, past media (generational
| upbringing), etc. Those generalizations always contain
| normalcy/socially acceptable leanings, which means marketing
| as structured currently would need to go out of its way to
| combat this leaning. Which they don't, no one cares, the
| workers complete the work, get paid, and go home.
| aliqot wrote:
| Somewhat related, Monster bev has a 'no nerds' policy. Just
| tongue in cheek I emailed them about sponsorship for an OSS
| project that was practically built by Monster Ultra Fiesta and
| the email response spelled it out in no uncertain terms, no
| nerds.
| teruakohatu wrote:
| Can you quote the email specifically?
| cobertos wrote:
| I would love to see their wording as well.
| abfan1127 wrote:
| this seems like a business opportunity...
| scottyah wrote:
| Tons of esports energy drinks for nerds
| dokem wrote:
| I think the extreme part is the height. And the impression I
| get is that we already maxed out the height in the 80s because
| you can only jump from so high. So the sport is kind of dead. I
| haven't looked into it at all because, like most people, i just
| don't find it very interesting.
| imglorp wrote:
| The scores are computed as degree of difficulty x judge's
| rating. So the higher up, the more moves can be fit into a
| ~3s fall. So there's a lot of zero sum thinking there: do you
| do one medium-hard thing very well, one hard thing mediocre,
| or three things strung together? That's a little of the
| appeal for me.
|
| Also, I did a little 10m which is just a taste of this.
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