[HN Gopher] How I Use My Mouse
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How I Use My Mouse
Author : Sujeto
Score : 38 points
Date : 2023-02-10 13:08 UTC (3 days ago)
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| whichfawkes wrote:
| I've been using MMO-style mice to do similar things for a while.
|
| Logitech's G-whatever software is kind of annoying, but one thing
| I _do_ like about it is it'll flash the configurations directly
| onto the mouse. This avoids needing to do any special config in
| the OS.
|
| I use their tool on Windows to just flash the mouse once, then I
| can use it on any machine and all my custom key-binds and macros
| "just work".
| smoe wrote:
| I went a different direction recently, i ditched the mouse and
| instead bought a lower-end Huion graphical tablet. I do pretty
| much everything with the keyboard, but while thinking about
| things i much prefer sketching ideas and taking notes by hand
| over e.g diagrams as code.
|
| It has only been a couple weeks and im still getting used to
| using a digital pen and what combination of software to use, but
| pretty happy so far with the experience.
| doubleunplussed wrote:
| This is great. Customising extra mouse buttons for day-to-day
| computer use is underrated.
|
| I mapped the two side buttons on my mouse to switch virtual
| desktops, and now I can't live without it. Switching desktops is
| a three-fingered swipe away on a laptop trackpad, why shouldn't
| it be as immediate with a mouse?
|
| For my home theatre PC (i.e. the intel NUC that's plugged into
| the TV for netflix), the wireless mouse that's sitting on my
| coffee table has its side-buttons mapped to volume up/down, which
| is important - the wireless keyboard has prominent volume
| controls, but avoiding switching to the keyboard is extra useful
| in this context.
|
| I like my current mouse (microsoft intellimouse), but the
| prospect of adding three further buttons in addition to the two
| side buttons I already have, and the realisation that the escape
| key, specifically, is one of the major drivers of mouse-to-
| keyboard switches, is making me consider switching to the one in
| the OP. Though being ambidextrous is a drawback - the
| intellimouse is an excellent shape.
| mattpallissard wrote:
| As someone who's used tiling WM's for years this confuses me. How
| I use my trackball? I don't outside of having to access something
| in Firefox that vimium isn't allowed to touch.
| yjftsjthsd-h wrote:
| And there's always keynav to close the gap, too:)
| k_ wrote:
| I was half expecting a very short entry basically saying "Well,
| most of the times, I don't."
| gertlex wrote:
| I enjoy write-ups like this! Decided to illustrate mine
| similarly, just now:
|
| https://imgur.com/pmMtCG2
|
| It's very geared towards browser (over-)use. Rest of the time,
| I'm in a terminal with minimal mouse use besides
| select/copy/paste stuff.
| Loveaway wrote:
| I use a Razer Naga MMO mouse for work, it has 12 buttons on the
| side and I bind all kind of things on them. Run/Debug, Hot
| Reload, Volume Up/Down, Back & Forward etc.
|
| There's a 3rd party tool for MacOS called SteerMouse, that let's
| you configure everything without ever touching Razer software
| (shudder).
|
| I'm always looking for a non-gaming focused alternative, with a
| maybe a bit more slick industrial design, but sadly there are
| none, so I think Razer is currently the best on the market.
| kergonath wrote:
| > I use a Razer Naga MMO mouse for work, it has 12 buttons on
| the side and I bind all kind of things on them. Run/Debug, Hot
| Reload, Volume Up/Down, Back & Forward etc.
|
| That's my setup as well, and it is amazing. I really recommend
| it.
|
| > There's a 3rd party tool for MacOS called SteerMouse, that
| let's you configure everything without ever touching Razer
| software (shudder).
|
| Which is just as good, as Razer's software is not updated
| anymore. Newer mice are not officially supported. SteerMouse is
| great, though, even with the newest models.
|
| > I'm always looking for a non-gaming focused alternative, with
| a maybe a bit more slick industrial design, but sadly there are
| none, so I think Razer is currently the best on the market.
|
| The Logitech G604 was great, I liked its ergonomics better than
| the Naga and it was visually unremarkable (all black with no
| blinking RHB nonsense). Sadly they don't make it anymore.
|
| I haven't seen a non-gaming mouse that could be comparable. The
| closest I have tried is the MX Master: the side scroll thing is
| interesting (particularly for 3D visualisation as you can
| entirely control a camera in a 3D space just with the mouse,
| leaving the other hand free for other controls) and the device
| is well built and satisfying to use, but does not have enough
| buttons.
| chem83 wrote:
| I have an MX2 and MX3, which work about the same.
|
| Side wheel is mapped to switching desktops, which on Mac is a
| nice, smooth animation that follows the wheel, on Windows it's
| acceptable instant switch and on Linux I haven't tried it yet.
|
| Back button stays as is, it's helpful. Forward button and scroll
| mode buttons can be remapped and I'm still considering the
| options. Emoji menu is an option, because I always forget the
| keyboard shortcut across platforms. Base button is the gesture
| control from Logi Options+, but I barely used it because I find
| it a bit unergonomic.
| ridiculous_fish wrote:
| On macOS, I use SensibleSideButtons to map my Logitech mouse side
| buttons to Swipe Right and Swipe Left. This works as a generic
| Forwards/Back in lots of places: Safari, Firefox, Finder, iTerm2.
|
| Unfortunately the app appears to be abandoned (no Apple Silicon
| builds), but if there's interest I will resurrect it.
|
| https://sensible-side-buttons.archagon.net
| jpb0104 wrote:
| Check out: https://mousefix.org/
| fragmede wrote:
| Isn't this functionality covered by Karabiner?
| kergonath wrote:
| That's overkill just for the side buttons, though. I feel bad
| every time I need to tinker with Karabiner because I don't
| think I understand half the options.
|
| To me, SteerMouse is more user-friendly and less
| intimidating. It might or might not help solve the OP's
| problem, depending on the mouse model. Worth a try anyway.
| RDaneel0livaw wrote:
| This is great! It really makes me yearn for a VIA like
| application to rise to popularity for mice. I still have trouble
| doing any kind of software anything with almost all popular
| modern mice on linux. There's an open razer app that's popular,
| but I think that's maybe it? I had a Glorious mouse for a long
| while I loved, but couldn't do a thing with it software wise.
| tastysandwich wrote:
| I'm surprised how few people seem to use the wheel as a middle-
| click button (eg, to open new tabs).
|
| When I switched to a Logitech MX Anywhere it had no middle wheel
| click. I thought this was an absolute scandal - wasn't everyone
| using this!? Apparently not.
|
| Amazing how some things we think are the status quo turn out not
| to be.
| m2fkxy wrote:
| I use middle mouse button (MMB) all the time! To open links in
| new tabs, close tabs and windows (i.e. MMB-click an app shown
| in the Alt-Tab menu), or hold to scroll.
| kirenida wrote:
| One more middle mouse button user here.
|
| It's usually the first thing that stops working on my mice.
|
| Also I love it that ThinkPads still have 3 physical mouse
| buttons over the touchpad, so I don't have to mess with the
| gestures or hold down Ctrl to open links in new tabs.
| Kwpolska wrote:
| Does it really not have the middle wheel click? This screenshot
| [0] seems to show it does, perhaps it's not the default and
| needs to be configured in the software? (My MX Master 3
| certainly has a clickable mouse wheel, and I use it quite
| often.)
|
| [0]: https://cx-
| assets.logi.com/CC%20Graphics/OptionsPlusUI/4_Opt...
| tastysandwich wrote:
| The Mx Master has a middle click
|
| I think the MX Anywhere 3 might have a middle click, but the
| 2S (which I had) didn't.
|
| https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/ew9hik/still_n.
| ..
| hbrn wrote:
| I use something very similar with Logitech devices and can't
| imagine my life without it.
|
| One thing I'll add, IMO it makes way more sense to map "forward"
| button to "Enter". Esc is already easy to reach if you keep your
| left hand on the left side of the keyboard.
| xemoka wrote:
| I use an Elecom Huge[1] trackball, it's got a few extra buttons
| that I've mapped with SteerMouse[2] (excellent MacOS Mouse Driver
| tool) and BetterTouchTool on macOS to provide window and space
| management/switching:
|
| It has: Left click, Right Click, Scroll wheel press, scroll wheel
| tilt down, scroll wheel tilt up, back, forward, fn1 and fn2 by
| the wheel, and fn3 right next to the right click.
|
| - Scroll Wheel Press and Fn3: are set to middle click (for some
| reason, in my setup, fn3 can't always be the third mouse
| depending on context... it's annoying).
|
| - fn1: Expose
|
| - fn2: Application Expose
|
| - hold fn3 + tilt down: previous space
|
| - hold fn3 + tilt up: next space
|
| - back/forward: set to move backwards and forwards or swap tabs
| depending on the application (customized with BetterTouchTool
| per-app)
|
| - Bonus: Easy Move + Resize [4]: I hold my configured Hyper key
| (left control on my external keyboard, karabiner configured to be
| cmd+option+control+shift) and left-click to move, right-click to
| resize
|
| [1]: https://elecomus.com/web/product/3271/
|
| [2]: https://www.plentycom.jp/en/steermouse/
|
| [3]: https://folivora.ai/
|
| [4]: https://github.com/dmarcotte/easy-move-resize
| itsjustjordan wrote:
| Work daily on a Mac and use a mouse and trackpad simultaneously,
| I find the trackpad the quickest for navigation but need the
| precision of a mouse. Wonder how a setup similar to this would go
| instead of the trackpad.
| officeplant wrote:
| I love my CST L-Trac but sometimes I wish I'd gotten the version
| with the extra button inputs to setup some extra keybinds.
|
| Alternatively I've finally become used to having a magictrackpad2
| and gestures. And thank you other devs[1] for someone getting it
| working on Windows x86/ARM64 builds as well. Next step is trying
| to find out if I can get it working fully under FreeBSD.
|
| [1]https://github.com/imbushuo/mac-precision-touchpad
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