[HN Gopher] Pangram
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       Pangram
        
       Author : bryanrasmussen
       Score  : 41 points
       Date   : 2023-02-11 20:51 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (en.wikipedia.org)
        
       | onnodigcomplex wrote:
       | It's a fun programming/puzzle challenge. I developed a perfect
       | pangram in Dutch about a teachers bike that is very lightweight
       | and fast, but not so strong
       | 
       | Jufs BMX: hypervlot c.q. zwak ding
        
         | bruce343434 wrote:
         | "C.Q." is an abbreviation that could mean different things
         | depending on the context. It is not a widely recognized or
         | commonly used abbreviation, and its meaning is not immediately
         | clear. Can you provide some more information or context about
         | it?
        
           | tremon wrote:
           | In Dutch, c.q. is an abbreviation of the Latin term casu quo,
           | meaning "or instead, alternatively" (lit. in which case). It
           | doesn't really fit here because it suggests that vlot (quick)
           | and zwak (weak) are interchangeable adjectives -- nor does it
           | match the English usage of the same term, where it is used
           | more like a premise/supposition rather than a conjunction.
        
           | itcrowd wrote:
           | It is common in Dutch, short for _casu quo_ (latin).
           | 
           | "A c.q. B" means something like "A or otherwise B" (example
           | translated from Dutch wikipedia page)
           | 
           | https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casu_quo
        
             | zabzonk wrote:
             | sorry didn't see anything in english on that page.
             | 
             | it's strange how a language that absorbs everything it
             | comes across didn't bag this, perhaps there something else
             | in english that does the same job?
        
               | TimTheTinker wrote:
               | In amateur radio, especially CW/morse code, CQ means
               | "looking for someone to talk to". It's an abbreviated
               | homonym for "seek you".
               | 
               | If you hear "CQ CQ CQ de WB6NOA" being transmitted, it
               | would mean the person who owns call sign WB6NOA is
               | looking to talk to someone on this frequency.
        
               | zabzonk wrote:
               | i did know that (in the back of my brain, and watching
               | Ellie in "Contact") but don't see how it applies here.
        
       | fortran77 wrote:
       | Ah the page is back!
       | 
       | See:
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletio...
       | 
       | It gets deleted periodically for Wikipedian reasons like "It is
       | mostly comprised of nonsense phrases thought up by people who
       | apparently find this sort of thing terribly clever."
        
         | vmatsiiako wrote:
         | Interesting haha, looks like it's translated to 55 languages
         | though!
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | realworldperson wrote:
         | [dead]
        
       | zabzonk wrote:
       | https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/computer-recreati...
       | 
       | it's dewdney, but paywalled
        
       | euroderf wrote:
       | Nymphs vex, beg quick fjord waltz.
       | 
       | (27 letters, spotted in the classifieds of a free rag in DC back
       | in the 70s or 80s)
        
       | anonu wrote:
       | I asked OpenAI for the shortest pangram in the English language.
       | This is its response:
       | 
       | > The shortest pangram in the English language is "The quick
       | brown fox jumps over the lazy dog."
       | 
       | Clearly it didn't read the wikipedia article.
       | 
       | Then I asked for an "original pangram":
       | 
       | > "Fjord zoologists quip jovially, waxing lyrical about xanthic
       | lutrines."
       | 
       | A Google search indicates that it may, in fact, be original.
        
         | fortran77 wrote:
         | Maybe, but it's not a pangram. ChatGPT is slippery. (There's no
         | "k". I stopped looking there.)
        
           | bshimmin wrote:
           | There's a "b" in "about", but there's no "k" or "m".
        
             | tsm wrote:
             | No 'm' either:                   (def phrase "Fjord
             | zoologists quip jovially, waxing lyrical about xanthic
             | lutrines")         (require '[clojure.string :as str])
             | (-> phrase str/lower-case distinct sort)         ;; =>
             | (\space \, \a \b \c \d \e \f \g \h \i \j \l \n \o \p \q \r
             | \s \t \u \v \w \x \y \z)
             | 
             | (edit: OP originally just mentioned 'k' but then ninja-
             | edited in the 'm')
        
               | bshimmin wrote:
               | You are right, I did - sorry. I wrote something similar
               | in Ruby to check!
        
               | teddyh wrote:
               | Python:                 >>> import string       >>>
               | phrase = "Fjord zoologists quip jovially, waxing lyrical
               | about xanthic lutrines"       >>>
               | set(string.ascii_lowercase) - set(phrase.lower())
               | {'k', 'm'}
        
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         | _jfwall wrote:
         | >> "Fjord zoologists quip jovially, waxing lyrical about
         | xanthic lutrines."
         | 
         | > A Google search indicates that it may, in fact, be original.
         | 
         | Also distinctly non-pangrammatic
        
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