[HN Gopher] Using low-cost wireless sensors in the unlicensed bands
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Using low-cost wireless sensors in the unlicensed bands
Author : signa11
Score : 31 points
Date : 2023-02-10 07:17 UTC (1 days ago)
(HTM) web link (lwn.net)
(TXT) w3m dump (lwn.net)
| VLM wrote:
| This is "older" tech so the installed base is (was?) large.
|
| In the past I found out if you use "level" in the format string
| it will output signal strength type data that you can analyze. It
| is not rocket surgery to store a DB row consisting of timestamp,
| id, and signal strength of all RX'd packets, then make a
| dashboard of how many unique IDs you hear over a ten minute
| period or whatever.
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| My hope was to detect 70 cm ham radio band openings (tropo ducts
| and the like) Wow did that never work. It was a good idea and fun
| but did not work at all. I repurposed the hardware into something
| else and moved on. Its possible that with different antennas or
| longer term project or something, who knows. The software, as in
| the article's link, worked fine however.
|
| If you'd like to try another frustrating IoT experiment, try
| monitoring all the tire pressure monitor systems that drive by
| your house using roughly the same hardware and similar software.
| IIRC I ran out of patience with that one. Sounded like fun after
| I saw a YT video on the topic... The good news is each tire on
| the road (by 2023 anyway) has a unique 32 bit ID, IIRC anyway,
| the bad news is the range was scarcely better than "a car length"
| away. If you've ever driven your car over the machine with the
| hoses the DOT puts out to count cars along a road for planning
| purposes, I thought I could replicate that kind of data by
| sniffing and analyzing TPMS data, but the range is WAY too low
| for the low repetition rate of the transmissions. I guess you
| could just gather data wirelessly for years at a time, but ...
| Maybe you could make parking meters really smart by listening for
| the tires parked at the meter, or track super expensive private
| parking, or an electric charger could pre-load the new user by
| sniffing the new user's tire transmitters. Or my garage door
| could automatically open if and only if my car is at the door.
| However the transmission rate is too low for most door opener
| level of patience.
| hummus_bae wrote:
| Dumb question, but do you have ID of your house on the chip?
| You could at least have a high and low threshold for your house
| and compare it to other houses.
| timerol wrote:
| The opening of this article is confusing. It contrasts relatively
| expensive Zigbee and Z-Wave devices with cheap sensors emitting
| radio signals in the unlicensed ISM bands. But Zigbee and Z-Wave
| both operate in ISM bands, so the distinction isn't a difference.
|
| It's more like the difference between building and hosting a
| static website with Squarespace vs. AWS. One of them is more
| expensive with more bells and whistles, but both accomplish
| similar goals by communicating with the browser in similar ways.
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