[HN Gopher] Blender moves from Phabricator to Gitea
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       Blender moves from Phabricator to Gitea
        
       Author : stephdin
       Score  : 48 points
       Date   : 2023-02-07 21:57 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | shapefrog wrote:
       | Gitea really really really looks like github.
        
       | cowmix wrote:
       | I wonder how Gitea will hold up to all the traffic? Even Gitea
       | hosts their stuff on Github.
        
         | codefined wrote:
         | Gitea is self-hosted, so Blender will be running their own
         | instance.
        
           | qwertox wrote:
           | That's not what parent means. Gitea is an alternative to
           | GitHub, yet they use GitHub for hosting their code.
        
             | SV_BubbleTime wrote:
             | That kind of makes sense for disaster planning though.
             | 
             | If Gitea discovered some massive CVE, and volentarily went
             | dark to fix it... They would want their code and fix hosted
             | somewhere else.
        
               | bawolff wrote:
               | Mirroring the code to github (or somewhere else) would
               | solve that problem just as well.
               | 
               | Not dogfooding your own product seems like a huge red
               | flag to me.
        
               | throwaway894345 wrote:
               | There's clearly the intention to self-host, they seem to
               | be waiting for support to ingest data from a GitHub data
               | export which seems pretty reasonable.
        
         | yamtaddle wrote:
         | Doubt it'll be a problem.
         | 
         | Github's scaling challenges have more to do with the _write_
         | volume than the read volume. Even a project as big and active
         | as Blender shouldn 't make Gitea sweat too much on relatively
         | modest hardware. Anonymous clones and such will surely be
         | https, so, quite cache-friendly.
         | 
         | I wanna say Gitea has some config options for hosting static
         | files (like releases) on s3-compatible storage then serving
         | directly from there, so even that shouldn't be a problem. But I
         | may be mis-remembering that part. And, again, a CDN or Varnish
         | or whatever would be able to serve those files just as well
         | from Gitea as from anywhere else.
        
         | stryan wrote:
         | I don't believe Gitea is hosting on Github for traffic reasons
         | but for feature completeness. Relevant issue is here[0].
         | 
         | [0]https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/1029
        
           | lucideer wrote:
           | That's a great ticket, & also links to a really nice &
           | insightful comment from one of the Fog Creek folk
           | https://lobste.rs/s/gokjbo/gitea_1_1_0_released#c_dg9pwe
        
             | vidanay wrote:
             | I still dream of a world where FogBugz & Kiln gained the
             | respect they deserved.
             | 
             | Mercurial was pretty damn nice.
        
         | tylersmith wrote:
         | Gitea does not use Github because the software can't handle
         | their load requirements, but because they started using GH
         | before Gitea had all the features they needed. They are
         | actively working on hosting Gitea on Gitea, with the last piece
         | being an importer to move over all their GH data.
         | 
         | Blender seems to have been ok manually migrating some things
         | and abandoning other things, since they weren't likely to ever
         | get a Phab->Gitea importer anyways.
         | 
         | https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/1029
        
           | bawolff wrote:
           | How much traffic could they possibly have? Quite frankly
           | either gitea has absolutely terrible scalability or something
           | else is off here.
        
       | lucideer wrote:
       | This is an interesting move in the context of the recent
       | kerfuffle around Gitea - context:
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33749757
       | 
       | I wonder whether this was part of discussion on the migrating
       | within the Blender team or whether their migration just started
       | before the Gitea org-change.
        
       | rvz wrote:
       | Great news for self hosting and not sitting on and going all in
       | on unreliable services like GitHub.
        
         | tylersmith wrote:
         | This is a consolidation of the self-hosting ecosystem because
         | Phabricator is ending support. It's not terrible but I wouldn't
         | call it good let alone great news.
        
       | qwertox wrote:
       | One note on Phabricator: "Effective June 1, 2021: Phabricator is
       | no longer actively maintained"
        
         | JamesCoyne wrote:
         | There is a phork: https://we.phorge.it/
        
         | zozbot234 wrote:
         | Maintenance has been picked up by the community under a new
         | name, viz. Phorge.
        
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