[HN Gopher] Google announces ChatGPT rival Bard, with wider avai...
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       Google announces ChatGPT rival Bard, with wider availability in
       'coming weeks'
        
       Author : gmays
       Score  : 13 points
       Date   : 2023-02-06 20:47 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | themodelplumber wrote:
       | It should be fun to watch the competition.
       | 
       | My prediction...In 10 years:
       | 
       | - Microsoft version: Still does basically the same thing as
       | ChatGPT in 2023, but with interesting factoids and pretty images
       | making the experience more welcoming
       | 
       | - Google version: Gives you some damn interesting ad pitches,
       | provides some sketchy advice which seems to have been farmed
       | rather than earned the hard way, and finally: Answers your
       | original question by referring you to your own blog post from
       | 2019
       | 
       | - Facebook version: Keeps showing you hearts from a creepy
       | relative on all of your public queries
        
         | Kibae wrote:
         | I _really_ hope ChatGPT doesn 't go with the advertising
         | revenue model. I think the paid model they announced
         | ($20/month) is a good starting point, but there's going to be
         | significant drop-off from the mass market it serves today if
         | there is no free tier.
         | 
         | I'm hoping they're able to figure out a model where the paying
         | customers can offset the costs for the free tier for simple
         | queries, and that the paid model is able to do more complex
         | computations (e.g. Input a 300-page book and condense it into a
         | 2-page summary; or integrate a search engine in applications
         | like Obsidian).
        
           | themodelplumber wrote:
           | I like your ideas. I also think it'd be interesting if
           | advertising models had a certain front-end algorithmic
           | transparency which could be dialed in at a user's preference.
           | 
           | Example:
           | 
           | - I want the paid service, with no ads.
           | 
           | - I want the free service, with ads that use sampling model X
           | based on my input.
           | 
           | - I want the free service, with ads that use metadata model Y
           | based on my connection fingerprint.
           | 
           | - I want the free service, with ads that use another model,
           | Z, based on source-convergence or some such thing.
           | 
           | - I want a discounted service, with ads of one of those types
           | shown at period N of my choosing and based on the budget I
           | specify.
           | 
           | It might also be interesting if providers like Google would
           | let ad providers bid on your attention, by offering different
           | experiences, algorithms, layouts, types of ad exposure, etc.
           | with Google being an ad-experience aggregator.
           | 
           | In this way the door could be potentially opened to A) making
           | ads more effective and B) helping users and e.g. parents of
           | users set more comfortable boundaries with ad sources. You
           | know what you're getting and you can change it to something
           | else at any point.
        
         | CharlesW wrote:
         | - Apple version: You can now say "Siri" instead of "Hey Siri"
        
           | aintgonnatakeit wrote:
           | All the lights are now on.
        
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