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       Mesa 23.1 Includes Asahi Linux Gallium3D Driver Progress
        
       Author : cf100clunk
       Score  : 81 points
       Date   : 2023-02-04 17:27 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
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       | j-krieger wrote:
       | Now if Intel could finally fix gpu hangs on alder lake / kaby
       | lake processors past kernel version 5.18 I would be _really_
       | impressed. These hangups have been plaguing X1 carbon users for
       | years now. Their drivers have introduced regression bugs a couple
       | of times, and even arbitrary kernel parameters which fixed the
       | issue do no longer work for me and my colleagues which are on x1
       | carbons past the 9th gen. For me especially, my laptop reports
       | gpu hangs every 5 seconds via dmesg _unless_ a second monitor is
       | connected. Some of my colleagues had some luck with disabling
       | OpenGL in their compositor's settings, but that didn't work for
       | me.
       | 
       | Sources:
       | [0]:https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/intel/-/issues/7529
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       | [1]:https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/intel/-/issues/7558
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       | [2]:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1998950
        
       | detrites wrote:
       | If you're wondering what Mesa is:
       | https://docs.mesa3d.org/index.html
        
         | pxc wrote:
         | For Linux graphics support, getting the appropriate components
         | upstreamed into Mesa is as major a milestone as getting the
         | lower-level stuff mainlined into the kernel.
         | 
         | From an end user perspective, you know that if the mainstream1
         | drivers for a GPU are in Mesa, you won't have to install
         | anything extra to get basic support (i.e., everything except
         | GPGPU or AI stuff) working. All you need when your drivers are
         | in Mesa is to be up-to-date! Every desktop-oriented distro
         | ships a ton of stuff, including those drivers.
         | 
         | And of course Mesa plays the same vital role in the graphics
         | stack of the free Unices!
         | 
         | The inclusion of the Gallium3D driver for the GPUs included in
         | Apple's ARM SoCs is definitely a step to celebrate for those of
         | us who hope to eventually run our favorite distro (of Linux or
         | BSD!) on those new Mn Macs, hassle-free. :)
         | 
         | --
         | 
         | 1: In the case of AMD, the most popular drivers are actually
         | those shipped with Mesa, even though those are not the vendor's
         | drivers (which are also open-source). With Intel, the vendor
         | drivers are distributed as part of Mesa. I wanted to cover
         | both, hence my use of 'mainstream' rather than 'official' here.
        
           | detrites wrote:
           | Great explanation of the significance of this.
           | 
           | I suspect others, like me, are watching Asahi's progress as a
           | potential exit from - or compliment to - macOS, whilst still
           | being able to use the excellent hardware natively.
           | 
           | As such, some of us may be new to the Linux ecosystem, and
           | elucidations like this are most helpful and appreciated.
        
             | malermeister wrote:
             | Apple Silicon is incredible, but macOS feels incredibly
             | limiting for my preference compared to Linux.
             | 
             | I would love to be able to use Asahi, but I'm worried the
             | power management will never get good enough. Part of what
             | makes those MacBooks so incredible is the battery life and
             | I'm not sure I'm willing to give up on that...
        
           | cf100clunk wrote:
           | > The inclusion of the Gallium3D driver for the GPUs included
           | in Apple's ARM SoCs is definitely a step to celebrate for
           | those of us who hope to eventually run our favorite distro
           | (of Linux or BSD!) on those new Mn Macs, hassle-free. :)
           | 
           | Yes, that's precisely why I submitted this item even though
           | Mesa is, of course, a great topic on its own.
        
           | 7speter wrote:
           | Ive been really confused by what exactly the intel and amd
           | drivers are relative to mesa and I've been wondering if my
           | understanding is a common misnomer... so to put this all
           | concise-ly, mesa was originally an implementation for opengl
           | on linux (unix like?) systems but has since broadened in
           | scope to be a sort of graphical software suite that include
           | drivers for the likes of amd and intel?
        
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