[HN Gopher] A 50-Year Quest: My Personal Journey with the Second...
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       A 50-Year Quest: My Personal Journey with the Second Law of
       Thermodynamics
        
       Author : yarapavan
       Score  : 45 points
       Date   : 2023-02-03 07:58 UTC (1 days ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (writings.stephenwolfram.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (writings.stephenwolfram.com)
        
       | fsckboy wrote:
       | this link is
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       | > _part 2 in a 3-part series about the Second Law:_
       | 
       | > _1. Computational Foundations for the Second Law of
       | Thermodynamics_
       | 
       | > _2. A 50-Year Quest: My Personal Journey with the Second Law of
       | Thermodynamics_
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       | > _3. How Did We Get Here? The Tangled History of the Second Law
       | of Thermodynamics_
       | 
       | conundrum:
       | 
       | 1. can i win by starting with part 2?
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       | 2. will I have a better chance of breaking even if I start with
       | part 1?
       | 
       | https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2023/02/computational-fo...
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       | 3. do I have to read part 3?
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       | time to find out...
        
         | ur-whale wrote:
         | You could help everyone else win by letting us know of your
         | findings.
        
         | Stratoscope wrote:
         | It sounds like you already know the answer!
         | 
         | You can't win. You can't break even. And you can't get out of
         | the game.
        
       | onos wrote:
       | I don't follow everything he figured out / discussed here. But
       | the man is definitely a genius, and through Mathematica alone has
       | had an immense impact on science. Appreciate the link, it was
       | refreshing to read a bit of his life.
        
       | boole1854 wrote:
       | I would recommend starting with Part 1, rather than Part 2 (which
       | was linked). Here is Part 1:
       | https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2023/02/computational-fo...
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       | Wolfram's ability to create interesting visualizations is
       | fantastic. But I seem to feel underwhelmed at the significance of
       | his discovery.
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       | In short, he says that the Second Law of Thermodynamics is a
       | consequence of the fact that we as observers are computationally
       | bounded and cannot perceive all the details in the the lower-
       | level, computationally irreducible physical systems around us.
       | 
       | Yet this does not seem enormously different, or perhaps not
       | different at all, than the standard account in statistical
       | mechanics in which the observer is considered to be coarse-
       | graining over the fine details of the system which are too
       | complex to track.
       | 
       | What is new in Wolfram's approach other than using computation-
       | related labels to describe the situation? For example, his
       | 'computationally bounded' observer is just the standard 'coarse-
       | graining', right?
        
         | dkural wrote:
         | You are right. There is nothing new here.
        
       | smohare wrote:
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