[HN Gopher] Glovo lays off 6% of staff following fresh fine from...
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Glovo lays off 6% of staff following fresh fine from Spanish
government
Author : schnitzelstoat
Score : 32 points
Date : 2023-01-30 10:56 UTC (12 hours ago)
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| jeoqn wrote:
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| Bayart wrote:
| Not the Stalinist flavour.
| wittycardio wrote:
| [dead]
| anthk wrote:
| "Communist". More like euro-Communist. Plain social-democrats.
| miguelxt wrote:
| Not in this case. The social democrats would be another party
| (PSOE). She is part of the Communist Party of Spain, a
| Marxist-Leninist party. They are part of the government in
| coalition with PSOE (through Izquierda Unida and Podemos,
| both hard-left parties).
| anthk wrote:
| I an from Spain. PSOE is not Social Democrat party since
| long ago. It's a progressive center party.
|
| The actual Social Democrats are from IU/Podemos.
| unity1001 wrote:
| Having adopted socially progressive issues does not make
| IU or Podemos less communist. As in the name - United
| Left. They unite everyone from Anarcho syndicalists to
| Marxist-Leninist. That's a communist party, a united
| front like how the united front was invented 100 years
| ago at the turn of the century.
| anthk wrote:
| I repeat, I'm from Spain. I know perfectly my politics.
| Actual commies, the Marxist-Leninist ones do not stay
| aside with Izquierda Unida. Even less with Podemos.
| unity1001 wrote:
| The European 'united front' type parties include all
| communist varieties and they are not social democrats. They
| include everyone from Anarcho Syndicalists to Stalinists to
| Maoists to plain Marxist-Leninists and all the other
| varieties.
|
| For social democrats, you look at center-left (or actually,
| center) parties. They use the name 'socialist' in the name.
| Whenever you see one, you are looking at centrist social
| democrats.
|
| The reason why this left coalition with majority centrists is
| able to do pro-people reforms and fight big money is because
| the communist coalition partner is pushing hard for it. (And
| also all of these was signed in the pre-coalition agreement).
|
| So its probably the most successful left wing government in
| West Europe in the last 40 yeras for that reason. They were
| able to pass major reforms ranging from the labor reform that
| now protects 'contractors' to raising the minimum wage two
| times, from rent control to the new minimum income law among
| many others. I totally did not expect that they would be able
| to succeed in that much. It was quite a surprise.
| anthk wrote:
| Not with Izquierda Unida since Eurocommunism and PSOE's
| shift to the right since Suresnes.
|
| If any, a Marxist would vote them as the "least wrong"
| choice.
| bradhe wrote:
| Eh, in some places (Portugal, for instance) it means, like,
| actual communist. Sometimes even financed by the Russian
| party.
| lakomen wrote:
| Sounds like communism is a good thing after all
| Laaas wrote:
| For context, Spain is also very unfriendly to ridesharing
| services like Uber AFAIK.
| lm28469 wrote:
| Most of western europe actually, but it's not so much about XYZ
| services but more about saying your employees aren't employees
| but contractors so you can skip taxes and other annoying things
| like sick leaves, unemployment benefits, &c.
| MomoXenosaga wrote:
| Yes but Uber is a Trojan horse for importing American style
| capitalism. The tide is slowly turning for neoliberalism.
| spaceman_2020 wrote:
| In my country, Uber promised drivers sky high wages, offered
| cheap credit, and encouraged them to buy cars on loan and drive
| for Uber full time.
|
| Of course, the income started going down once the incentives
| were removed. Drivers could not pay their loans and got their
| vehicles repossessed. Sit in a Uber in my city and you'll not
| hear a single driver say anything good about Uber.
|
| Sure, I know that drivers should have known what they were
| doing, but if your business model depends on exploiting
| desperate, poorly educated workers by dangling shiny golden
| carrots (all with a slick presentation and weapons grade
| persuasion), then maybe your business can f itself.
| jmorenoamor wrote:
| Not the services themselves but their job model. JustEst is
| pretty popular, has a somewhat nice model and does not have
| problems with the laws.
|
| Glovo is trying to install a job model that does not fit our
| view of what the relation on employer and employee should be,
| and because of that has been fined several times.
|
| The case for Uber or Cabify is a bit different. There is a well
| established Taxi guild which will fight to keep others from
| taking part of their business, and in that case, each region
| makes their own decissions and regulations, not the central
| government.
| sschueller wrote:
| I love how we now label breaking a countries laws as it being
| "unfriendly". /s
| spaceman_2020 wrote:
| those damn workers rights and labor laws getting in the way
| of creating shareholder value once again!
| mindracer wrote:
| > Glovo is appealing both fines and told Sifted that today's
| layoffs are not connected to the penalties.
|
| So nothing to do with the fine
| GauntletWizard wrote:
| If you'll take that at face value, I've got a bridge in
| Brooklyn to sell you.
| schnitzelstoat wrote:
| Title taken from article. I'm not sure if the layoffs are related
| to the fines so much as the general economic environment though.
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