[HN Gopher] Toroidal propellers turn your drones and boats into ...
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       Toroidal propellers turn your drones and boats into noiseless
       machines
        
       Author : danboarder
       Score  : 78 points
       Date   : 2023-01-29 18:47 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.designboom.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.designboom.com)
        
       | mkl wrote:
       | Related discussion from a couple of months ago:
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33949895 (156 comments).
        
         | kibwen wrote:
         | That was only for the boat prop design, this is the first I've
         | seen of the infinity propellers for drones, which at least look
         | extremely cool.
        
           | jbay808 wrote:
           | From that article:
           | 
           | > Greg reasoned that if he could reduce or even eliminate
           | these tip vortices, it should lead to a quieter, more
           | efficient drone. His light bulb moment came on a dog walk
           | when the idea of a tipless blade, that loops round to rejoin
           | the propeller hub like a strip of twisted ribbon, first
           | popped into his head.
           | 
           | > It took a further seven years of intensive research and
           | development, substantial investment, 23 worldwide patents and
           | a switch in focus from drones to boats before Sharrow
           | Engineering unveiled its first production propeller
           | 
           | It seems that Sharrow was initially trying to tackle drones,
           | but found boat props to be a lower-hanging fruit. This all
           | makes me wonder who has priority on the patent -- MIT, or
           | Sharrow?
        
       | olliej wrote:
       | Low content article imo - much more a marketing piece (though at
       | least isn't trying to pretend it is not)
        
       | rom-antics wrote:
       | This video has a noise comparison for the drone propellers at
       | 1:11
       | 
       | https://twitter.com/MITLL/status/1611438712683958306
        
         | s1artibartfast wrote:
         | You see any reporting on the loss of efficiency due to the
         | different design?
        
         | Torkel wrote:
         | Wow. Anyone making these for drones yet?
         | 
         | This will be big.
        
       | paulcole wrote:
       | As someone who grew up doing a lot of outdoor activity, I assumed
       | part of the fun of owning a drone and/or motorboat was annoying
       | the shit out of the people around you?
        
         | Waterluvian wrote:
         | My family cottage is on a lake about 4km end to end. It's the
         | perfect size for some water skiing, tubing, swimming, fishing.
         | But some maniac has one of those boats with four outboard
         | engines lined up and zips across it in seconds. Insanely loud.
         | Just awful.
        
       | JoeAltmaier wrote:
       | Didn't read much but look like they could foul pretty solidly.
        
       | nailer wrote:
       | Saving you some time: skip the first video, go straight to the
       | second.
        
         | discordance wrote:
         | Second video: https://youtu.be/b9a40Rs5CxE
        
       | ge96 wrote:
       | Wonder if it helps with seaweed issues
        
       | number6 wrote:
       | I guess we will see them in Ukraine
        
       | Gravityloss wrote:
       | A company called Aviation Partners developed and licensed
       | winglets. They developed the spiroid winglet that is a loop at
       | the end of the wing, claiming increased efficiency over plain
       | winglets. No takers so far, first tested 30 years ago.
       | https://www.aviationpartners.com/aircraft-winglets/types-ble...
        
         | ricardobeat wrote:
         | Since their other winglet designs are on modern Boeing
         | airplanes, there must be a reason for that.
        
       | ballenf wrote:
       | Could they make these out of a stiff silicone? Seems more doable
       | than with a traditional prop.
        
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