[HN Gopher] The cathedral that failed
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The cathedral that failed
Author : acsillag
Score : 66 points
Date : 2023-01-26 08:18 UTC (14 hours ago)
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| cousin_it wrote:
| Such sound architecture. Even when unfinished and without a roof,
| it's still beautiful and people want to be around it somehow,
| with plastic chairs and bonfires.
| mmsimanga wrote:
| Came straight to the comments expecting breakdown of why a closed
| source application failed.
| kweingar wrote:
| Both cathedral and bazaar are models of developing open source
| software.
| herodoturtle wrote:
| ... which in turn sent me down a rabbit hole of researching
| what esr has been up to since his famous essay.
| martincmartin wrote:
| So what's he been up to?
| giraffe_lady wrote:
| 9/11 conspiracy theories, climate denialism, white
| supremacy mostly.
| [deleted]
| [deleted]
| hinkley wrote:
| I visited London right after I read Neal Stephenson's Baroque
| Cycle, and we ended up in a cathedral off Fleet Street (I was
| quite disappointed that my mental image from the books was a 20m
| wide open sewer and in fact the buildings today might only be 5m
| apart close to the Thames) which was designed by Christopher Wren
| after the London Fire.
|
| I don't recall the name, I'm sure someone here who knows London
| can work it out from my description, but you could go up into the
| dome and I remarked to myself that the fall to the marble floor
| from the highest opening in the dome could easily kill a man.
|
| I've probably repeated this story here half a dozen times now,
| but in the background information posted at the church it said
| that he had so many people wanting to commission him for building
| their church yesterday that he built them without bell towers
| with an agreement that once everyone was back in business, he'd
| come back around and build the towers on. Seeing how complex
| those domes were, I'm not quite clear why adding a tower later
| was a substantial savings in time and effort but that's the
| story.
| pjc50 wrote:
| A Cathedral? Off Fleet Street? Built by Wren? That's only St
| Paul's, one of the most famous buildings in the city ..
|
| If you'd gone up the dome, it has a "whispering gallery" where
| if you whisper along the wall it echoes round and can be heard
| on the other side.
|
| Due to the great fire of 1666, a _lot_ of London churches were
| built by Wren. He has a distinctive style.
| jlarcombe wrote:
| Heh, "a" cathedral, St. Paul's! He didn't do many with a dome,
| St. Stephen's Walbrook the only one I can think of apart from
| St. Paul's. Most of his City churches are less grand, but no
| less interesting.
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christopher_Wren_churc...
| Eleison23 wrote:
| [dead]
| japanman425 wrote:
| [flagged]
| dang wrote:
| " _Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents._ "
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
| telesilla wrote:
| >It is not uncommon for Gothic cathedrals to be left unfinished
|
| Let's not forget the spectacular Sagrada Familia. It's worth so
| much, unfinished that I assume Paris will learn from this with
| the Notre Dame.
| peoplefromibiza wrote:
| Sagrada Familia is not gothic though.
|
| It was born as a neo-gothic church but when Gaudi took over as
| the construction supervisor, he changed its style to liberty,
| giving birth to what is now known as Catalan modernism.
| jasonjamerson wrote:
| Yes, Art Nouveau, or "Liberty Style" in Italian, maybe also
| in Spanish?
| capableweb wrote:
| I don't think Sagrada Familia has been "left unfinished". It is
| still unfinished, yes, but construction continues, it hasn't
| stopped as far as I could tell last time I was in Barcelona.
| dendrite9 wrote:
| Are many buildings ever really finished? I don't think people
| go to the Sagrada Familia because it is under construction. In
| fact I think more visitors would prefer more access with less
| equipment around. 150 years isn't really that long for a
| cathedral, this good article starts with the fact that the
| Bristol Cathedral took nearly 700 years to finish!
|
| https://theprepared.org/features-feed/2019/4/28/building-a-c...
| shrimp_emoji wrote:
| https://youtu.be/IAiB_T2kqbc
|
| "What kind of fire would burn us theeere?"
| pieterr wrote:
| I was expecting a discussion of [1].
|
| [1] http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/
| forgotpwd16 wrote:
| Me too but have to say I was pleasantly surprised. Non-tech
| articles such as these are nice to have.
| sanedigital wrote:
| Great article, but I think its odd to call James I of Aragon's
| conquest of Mallorca a "Catalan conquest".
|
| Poor Aragon, always getting its history rewritten by Catalan
| separatists and those that sympathize with them.
| FlotaDeAragon wrote:
| Those catalans want to steal the victory of the world renowned
| Fleet of Aragon
|
| By far the best fishermen of Spain
| capableweb wrote:
| Isn't the "Crusade of the Infants of Aragon" commonly known as
| the "Catalan Crusade" though? The Aragonese Crusade would refer
| to the events related to the War of the Sicilian Vespers.
|
| I'm no history experts though, so would be happy to be
| corrected, this is just my understanding of things.
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