[HN Gopher] How primitive building videos are staged [video]
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How primitive building videos are staged [video]
Author : gronky_
Score : 92 points
Date : 2023-01-23 19:45 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| poulpy123 wrote:
| You mean the video of 2 guys building a Disney resort out of mud
| in few weeks is fake ?
| tiborsaas wrote:
| As a programmer, I don't see a problem with that estimation.
| luckylion wrote:
| I could've done it in an afternoon, they really used the
| wrong stack.
| marktangotango wrote:
| Ninja Rockstar 100x primitive builder here, I agree!
|
| Seriously, I don't begrudge these people one bit. They saw
| an opportunity and seized it. Admirable in my opinion.
| Specifically, the videos are so clearly fake it's hard to
| understand how anyone can be fooled to believe they're
| real. I mean "throwing" 50 tons of dirt out of a hole to
| build these things is just too much.
| poulpy123 wrote:
| Building on fakes and lies is not admirable at all
| JieJie wrote:
| The Tucker Carlson Defense
|
| (Nothing personal)
| etrautmann wrote:
| I've seen these videos abs thought that this was laughably
| obvious and didn't need an expository video. Who's fooled? The
| content is still mildly entertaining when understood to be an
| act.
| dav_Oz wrote:
| The email from Primitive Technology says it all:
|
| > _[...] But wanting to stay out of internet drama. I 'll leave
| it up to the discerning viewer to decide what's real or not.
|
| My advice to people who really want to know if the techniques on
| display are legitimate is to put them into practice and see. If
| you can follow the steps and get a similar result then it's
| probably legit. [...]_
|
| For people with some dirt in their hands/construction experience
| it is obvious most of the time, so I kind of suspect that some
| part of the audience knows that they are served a package here:
| ordinary construction work delivered in the popular style of PT.
| A soothing fantasy.
| gunshai wrote:
| When stuff like this comes up, I always think about the following
| story about the great Hanoi Rat Massacre.
|
| >During the beginning of the campaign in April 1902 the
| Government-General of French Indochina hired professional
| Vietnamese rat-catchers, these would descend into the sewers to
| hunt the rats down, and be paid for each rat that they had
| eliminated.
|
| A FEW MOMENTS LATER
|
| >The rat hunters amputated their tails and then let them escape
| so they could breed and create more offspring with tails to then
| repeat the process.[10] Furthermore, there were also reports that
| some Vietnamese people were deliberately smuggling in rats from
| outside Hanoi into the city.[10] The final straw for this plan
| was when French health inspectors discovered rat farming
| operations popping up in the countryside on the outskirts of
| Hanoi, that were breeding rats solely for their tails as some
| sort of "tail creation factories".
| Turing_Machine wrote:
| An identical story is told about Seattle in the late 19th/early
| 20th Century... bounty on rats paid upon presentation of the
| tail, followed by kids setting up rat ranches in their
| basements and back yards.
| BLKNSLVR wrote:
| Made me think of The Cobra Effect, and it turns out the Hanoi
| Rat Massacre is mentioned in the same Wikipedia article:
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perverse_incentive
| namdnay wrote:
| "tax the rat farms"
| peterbmarks wrote:
| YouTube ironically also listed a bunch of other videos about
| faked YouTube videos.
| mmcgaha wrote:
| I am ok being entertained and not knowing the magic tricks.
| 56friends wrote:
| The magic trick here is destruction of a forest, not confetti
| in a jacket sleeve.
| giarc wrote:
| I think it's important to be honest, but my kids are mesmerized
| by these videos. I'd rather them watch fake build videos over the
| videos of kids playing with toys or unboxing videos.
| iambateman wrote:
| I mean...did we really think the vast, perfectly square
| construction projects, filmed with expensive cameras were in fact
| roughing it alone out in the wilderness?
|
| It feels like this video is a lot of pearl clutching about how
| many views these projects get...while being a video getting a lot
| of views and ad revenue.
| 56friends wrote:
| This video doesn't destroy a forest while the other ones do.
|
| This and similar investigations are raising awareness of the
| harm of watching and promoting these scammy channels.
| sys32768 wrote:
| This guy has something like 100M views showing himself totally
| bored finding comical amounts of surface "gold". He turns off
| comments on most of his videos now though:
|
| https://www.youtube.com/@MaximovRo
| legitster wrote:
| I feel bad for the Primitive Technology guy. He started this
| genre, and there's only so much you can do honestly. People's
| appetite for ever-iterating content is still there to be
| exploited, and others have taken his concept and run with it.
| scifibestfi wrote:
| Are we at a point where the best heuristic is to assume fake
| until proven otherwise?
| LewisVerstappen wrote:
| Frankly, you have to be pretty stupid if you thought it was
| possible for 2 dudes to build a waterpark in the jungle out of
| mud with a couple of rocks.
| danielvaughn wrote:
| This has been my attitude for a while, although my use of
| TikTok really ramped up my disillusion. The amount of cringe-
| worthy fakery on that app makes YouTube look sane by
| comparison.
| DoingIsLearning wrote:
| The best heuristic is if there is money to be made then assume
| some bad agent will find a way to exploit it, always.
|
| Fake videos are just one corollary of this.
| mustacheemperor wrote:
| That is how I was raised to approach the internet approx. 20
| years ago, still seems like good advice today.
| tablespoon wrote:
| > That is how I was raised to approach the internet approx.
| 20 years ago, still seems like good advice today.
|
| The ironic thing is, back then, fakery was less common and
| easier to spot.
| skunkworker wrote:
| Except for Primitive Technology:
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| https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAL3JXZSzSm8AlZyD3nQdBA
| Fauntleroy wrote:
| The video starts off with this exception. For anyone else out
| there worried that this video was about him, worry not and go
| long with your day.
| jerpint wrote:
| Faith in the internet is restored
| ajsnigrutin wrote:
| I always thought that he was some kind of an
| engineering/anthrophology/... proessor/TA, and after showing a
| few examples (eg. how a brick is made), a team of students took
| over the work for a lab course, each of them made 20 more :)
| prvc wrote:
| Hopefully they will incorporate this exception into their
| headline; this is the only "primitive" channel with which I was
| familiar.
| tablespoon wrote:
| > Hopefully they will incorporate this exception into their
| headline; this is the only "primitive" channel with which I
| was familiar.
|
| There's only so much you can fit into a headline before it
| becomes too unwieldy. They pretty clearly indicated that one
| was legit, and it was used as a truthful example throughout
| the video. They even used that creator as a kind of outside
| expert to evaluate the fake videos.
| prvc wrote:
| Just one additional word needed. No excuse. Ironically,
| this clickbait style is similar to the fraud being
| described in the video.
| tablespoon wrote:
| > Just one additional word needed. No excuse. Ironically,
| this clickbait style is similar to the fraud being
| described in the video.
|
| The title is "How primitive building videos are staged,"
| what one additional word to you propose adding to
| distinguish the Primitive Technology channel's videos
| from all others? If you're thinking something like
| "many," that really doesn't really clarify much if
| anything.
| dvh wrote:
| Another fake video trend is some people gluing barnacles on land
| turtle's shells, then pretending it's a sea turtle and then
| making a video where they removes the glued barnacles.
|
| Another trend is fake restoration videos, fake animal rescues,
| etc...
| cainxinth wrote:
| There is also a spate of videos of two different cute animals
| together (like a puppy and duckling playing, etc.). A lot of
| those are produced by content farms and heaven knows how the
| animals are treated when the cameras are off.
| [deleted]
| mywacaday wrote:
| I was always skeptical of the amount of people coming across
| overturned turtles, disgusting behaviour.
| vuln wrote:
| Could we skip to the point that in any trend there will be
| fakes. A trend is a fad and while they reoccur every so often
| the ones that are prepared stands to make the most.
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