[HN Gopher] Astronautilia
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Astronautilia
Author : tintinnabula
Score : 168 points
Date : 2023-01-22 00:43 UTC (1 days ago)
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| boomboomsubban wrote:
| I wonder what inspired OudeisPloiarkhos to create an account and
| upload the plot summary. It's their only contribution to
| Wikipedia, and it's so detailed I somewhat wonder if it's really
| proper for the site.
|
| I'd guess some kind of academic assignment, though it's strange
| that they spent a few more months editing it after the original
| post.
| ricardobayes wrote:
| Some weird stuff has cult-like following in some countries.
| Meaning, in Hungary, the Bud Spencer movies, Torrente and Ford
| Fairlane script punchlines are something almost every hungarian
| can recite by heart. I didn't occur this phenomenon anywhere
| else (yet).
| TbobbyZ wrote:
| I would love to know how Czech culture influenced the novel.
| stjnvcm wrote:
| Sadly I hear about this for first time myself. The word
| hvezdoplavba is somehow know and used, mostly in poetic
| context. I don't think it had any particular affect on the
| society tho. I'll go check some second hand bookstores for this
| gem.
|
| Edit: after reading bit more about this, the author was kind of
| inspired by another Czech author Karel Capek, whose works did
| and keeps influencing people (also coined the word Robot for
| "mechanical worker" (that's enough bragging for today)
| legerdemain wrote:
| My impression is that central Europe (which I apologize for
| lumping together) has a pretty long-running tradition of
| literary absurdism and surrealism. They're works that are more
| allegorical than "scientific" or "futuristic," even though they
| might be responding to (or "riffing on") actual early sci-fi of
| the techno-futurism variety.
|
| As some examples, besides his _R.U.R._ , Capek (Czech) also
| wrote _The War with the Newts_. It 's an animal fairy tale that
| predates George Orwell's animal fairy tale by a decade.
|
| Franz Kafka, obviously, was born in Prague and spent his life
| in central Europe.
|
| Witold Gombrowicz's _Ferdydurke_ (1937) is a Polish analogue
| from the same decade. Bruno Schulz 's short story anthology
| _The Street of Crocodiles_ is another one.
|
| After World War 2, you have people like Stanislaw Lem (Polish)
| writing a lot of farcical science fiction and Jan Svankmajer
| (Czech) making a lot of grotesque, farcical stop-motion
| animation.
| legerdemain wrote:
| Adjacently, on the Russian side you have SF-flavored satire
| like Bulgakov's _Heart of a Dog_ , and on the French side you
| have stuff like _L 'Ecume des jours_.
| RektBoy wrote:
| First time hearing about this book.
| JasonFruit wrote:
| I can't help but wonder if this is a parody article inserted into
| Wikipedia by some brilliant vandal.
| pattisapu wrote:
| As science fiction and fantasy have evolved, they have converged.
|
| We can see plenty of fantasy in works of science fiction in the
| conventional _forms_ of science fiction -- short stories, novels,
| TV shows, movies, video games.
|
| It will be interesting to see science fiction in the conventional
| _forms_ of fantasy -- epics, ballads, poetry, fairy tales,
| onomastics, runic and incantatory forms of language....
|
| (As an aside, I've heard rumors of published contemporary sci-fi
| written in classical Sanskrit verse but I can't find any -- is
| this really a thing?)
| strbean wrote:
| > It will be interesting to see science fiction in the
| conventional _forms_ of fantasy
|
| I think this happened a fair amount in the forms of religious
| texts / mythology and mysticism in the early/mid 20th century,
| no?
| chadlavi wrote:
| I am too stupid to even understand the wikipedia summary of this
| book.
| foxh0und wrote:
| Is there any work being done currently for a full English
| translation?
| tntermini wrote:
| "but a violent revolution breaks out amongst the women; one
| approaches the Queen and, pulling out a penis, rapes her. The
| other rebel women follow suit." (quoting from wikipedia summary)
| [deleted]
| NKosmatos wrote:
| That's one of the reasons I love HN, you find some posts like
| this that are completely out of this world!!! Being Greek and a
| sci-fi fan, I need to find this book :-)
| algon33 wrote:
| This is the most insane thing I've read about this year.
| [deleted]
| xwdv wrote:
| It's been 23 days.
| oh_sigh wrote:
| Nah, OP is Chinese and it's been about 24 hours
| algon33 wrote:
| It's been strange these last 23 days.
| airstrike wrote:
| For the most insane thing you've listened to this year, try
| Mouth Dreams
| adzm wrote:
| Oh wow I had no idea this was the same person from Lemon
| Demon
| sdwr wrote:
| It's been...
| mtizim wrote:
| Thank you
| isoprophlex wrote:
| _Tell me about a complicated sheep, o Muse,_
|
| _of how it bleated as it saw all of our world_
|
| _and made it real just being there, a holy ewe_
|
| Maybe we'll have an Emily Wilson translation of the Astronautilia
| one day, I'd read that for sure!
| [deleted]
| 867-5309 wrote:
| sort-of related (scifi, poetry) is the book _Tau Zero_ [1] and
| its similarities with the Swedish epic poem _Aniara_ [2]
|
| [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tau_Zero
|
| [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aniara
| mjfl wrote:
| I always wonder what books there are out there, that are very
| interesting, with no English translation. Must be a lot of them.
| [deleted]
| giraffe_lady wrote:
| Arabic and chinese each have literary traditions approximately
| as broad and deep as the western canon. I'm sure there are
| plenty of others. In all likelihood _most_ excellent and
| interesting works are not available in english.
| bipop5000 wrote:
| Same with the Hindu mythology. As rich or even richer in
| terms of metaphors and knowledge that can transfer over to
| modern life.
| yourself92 wrote:
| I have the same thoughts about content on the web
| wongarsu wrote:
| The Russian web is surprisingly helpful for cyber security or
| undocumented Windows APIs. They also seem to have a better
| ecosystem of small Windows utilities to do obscure system
| tasks (like look up your connected USB devices, or check your
| memory for defects).
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