[HN Gopher] CarSized: A way to visualise car dimensions
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       CarSized: A way to visualise car dimensions
        
       Author : kennybrea
       Score  : 354 points
       Date   : 2023-01-20 02:46 UTC (20 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.carsized.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.carsized.com)
        
       | stefap2 wrote:
       | No Acura?
        
       | wpietri wrote:
       | Whoa. For me its cookie choice box gives me one choice: agreeing
       | to be tracked. I've never seen that, but it strikes me as pretty
       | rude.
        
         | dotancohen wrote:
         | Fortunately the browser has the option to disable cookies. I've
         | never understood why people just don't use this option.
        
           | ajsnigrutin wrote:
           | Yep, browsers should have per-domain cookie jars that get
           | wiped when the all tabs/windows using that domain are
           | closed.. and then a button not to wipe them on those few
           | domains that you actually need them (to stay logged in).
           | 
           | But this is what you get when you have politicians dealing
           | with technology.
        
           | nerdponx wrote:
           | Lack of decent UX for cookie management.
        
           | tobyhinloopen wrote:
           | How do you login
        
             | ruined wrote:
             | login to what? as far as i can tell, it has no account
             | functionality
        
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           | [deleted]
        
         | ComodoHacker wrote:
         | Actually it offers second choice if you read the text. Don't
         | agree and lose some vertical space while using the site.
        
           | kqr wrote:
           | Right click, inspect, delete cookie question element!
        
         | feb wrote:
         | And it's also illegal in EU. The GRPD imposes to have the
         | choice to reject tracking cookies. And it must be easy to
         | reject, not hidden somewhere or requiring one to manually
         | delete the cookies with the browser mechanisms.
        
         | bmn__ wrote:
         | https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/consent-o-matic/
         | 
         | https://github.com/cavi-au/Consent-O-Matic
         | 
         | Don't waste time on that nonsense, let the software deal
         | automatically with denying consent to being tracked.
        
       | a10c wrote:
       | One thing it's missing that would be immensely useful is a leg
       | room comparison in front / back seats
        
       | userbinator wrote:
       | Unfortunately the longest and shortest vehicles in
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_automotive_superlative...
       | aren't there, but this is the closest I could find:
       | 
       | https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/bmw-isetta-1955-1-d...
        
         | dsfyu404ed wrote:
         | The "firsts" section of the wikipedia link needs a whole bunch
         | of "depends how you define" type footnotes.
        
         | netgusto wrote:
         | Found longer! Dodge RAM 2500
         | https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/bmw-isetta-1955-1-d...
        
           | parker_mountain wrote:
           | The 2500 also has the highest amount of drunk drivers per
           | capita in the US. Truly, a terrifying vehicle.
        
             | tw98521358 wrote:
             | It's not a good buy so people that get them are by nature
             | have poor impulse control. I'd love to see a chart of car
             | vs avg credit rating sometime
        
       | Helmut10001 wrote:
       | This is me driving with my Space Star on the Autobahn [1]
       | 
       | [1]: https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/mitsubishi-
       | mirage-2...
        
         | dotancohen wrote:
         | Click on the front view. The Lincoln's grill comes up to the
         | Mitsu's head rest!
        
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         | HereBeBeasties wrote:
         | Spare a thought in your enormous hatchback for those of us who
         | can't even see through your back window to the road in front,
         | as you tower over us:
         | https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/lotus-elise-2011-ro...
         | ;-)
        
       | totetsu wrote:
       | For some reason this reminds me of the video games that taught me
       | to aim RPGs with iron sights by memorizing the dimensions of in
       | game vehicles and comparing it to a little measure on the sight
       | to estimate distance and so how far to adjust the aim upwards..
        
         | dsfyu404ed wrote:
         | Information regarding what common objects your front sight is
         | the width of at various ranges is pretty a standard inclusion
         | (though not a particularly emphasized part) training in
         | professional armies.
         | 
         | Many optical sights also incorporate similar features.
        
       | pacoverdi wrote:
       | Pretty cool. Looks like there are some scaling issues though:
       | 
       | https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/peugeot-5008-2017-s...
       | 
       | Front side: the 5008 looks smaller even though it's taller.
       | 
       | Rear side: the 5008 looks taller.
        
         | Jolter wrote:
         | So the Citroen looks taller even though it's shorter by
         | measurement.
         | 
         | Isn't this exactly the effect they are explaining in the FAQ?
         | (Link at the bottom of the page). Depending on the curvature of
         | the roof line, if you stand closer or further away, perspective
         | will make one car or the other look taller.
        
           | pacoverdi wrote:
           | Thanks, I did not see the FAQ which was hidden underneath the
           | cookie banner :)
           | 
           | You may be right. When looking at the side view, the rear of
           | the 5008 seems a little higher, while the height of the front
           | part is pretty similar in both cars.
        
       | Toutouxc wrote:
       | You don't even have to mess around with Smarts and Minis... The
       | car I [try not to] drive (a Skoda Rapid liftback) fits four 180
       | cm (5'10") adults and their baggage for a week, yet I could
       | almost drive UNDERNEATH some of the crap I have to share the
       | roads with (LR Discovery, F-150, BMW X8).
       | 
       | I used to love cars and driving, now they disgust me, along with
       | the whole my-car-is-my-identity culture.
        
         | Gordonjcp wrote:
         | And yet your "little" Skoda is the same size as a first or
         | second generation Landrover Discovery, and a bawhair smaller
         | than my second-gen Range Rover...
        
           | Toutouxc wrote:
           | > your "little" Skoda
           | 
           | That's the thing, it's not "little" in my book, but a full
           | sized car. It comfortably fits an average family (or a group
           | of four adults) and their stuff for a week-long vacation.
           | 
           | > same size as a first or second generation Landrover
           | Discovery It's 25 % lower and 5 % narrower than the first
           | generation, but I understand that the Discovery is an off-
           | road car, and I also consider it a full sized car, just like
           | mine. The evolution should've stopped (or been regulated)
           | right around there.
        
         | MezzoDelCammin wrote:
         | 194cm tall 95kg (i.e. "not skinny") 2021 Skoda Fabia owner
         | here. Last trip was 4 people for some weekend hiking, no big
         | issues either.
         | 
         | Yeah, Rapid is a bit on the long size ;-)
         | 
         | But agree - I wouldn't like to drive that outside of the EU. It
         | feels kinda weird to be (sometimes below) eye level with some
         | car hoods...
        
         | trgn wrote:
         | > I used to love cars and driving, now they disgust me,
         | 
         | ++
         | 
         | I live in fly-over country, and cars, pretty much all of them,
         | are monstrously large now. I notice the change, even to 15-20
         | years ago. Just as a small example; the physical experience of
         | just being in a parking lot now, it's gotten really foul. The
         | rooflines of cars parked on the street now block the view
         | outside my local coffee shop. Not sure if this is real, but
         | there seems more of that casual sociopathic driving (weaving in
         | an out of traffic, texting, tailgating, ...). I'm not
         | exaggerating, any given day and I likely see, with my own eyes,
         | the aftermath of a wreck.
         | 
         | It's absolutely insane to me. It's a true saying; "things can
         | always get worse". I feel like we're finding that out now. The
         | public realm is just worse. Straight up. Worse. More deadly,
         | violent, unwelcoming. And it's cars. The only concrete thing
         | really. Big, fast going cars. Slow them down, have them
         | smaller. And immediately, almost from day one, life outside is
         | better.
         | 
         | > whole my-car-is-my-identity culture
         | 
         | This is not projection, it's a core truth. Many americans have
         | reified independence into an extremely specific material
         | _thing_. Big cars. Even if not all, then still enough to hold
         | everybody else hostage.
        
           | yabones wrote:
           | My wife recently pointed out to me that cars from 15-25 years
           | ago all have "happy faces" and newer cars (late 00's to
           | current) often have "angry faces".
           | 
           | It's silly at first, but the more you think about it, the
           | more it makes sense why driving has gotten so miserable. Our
           | little monkey-brains see angry faces all around us, and we
           | act more defensively. We feel the need to defend ourselves
           | from all the scary metal boxes, leading to buying scarier
           | looking boxes. It's an angry-headlights arms race.
        
             | jgbmlg wrote:
             | I think there have always been a few aggressive, angry-
             | looking cars. Case in point the 1950 Buick Super Eight
             | https://imgur.com/a/OvwFNQa I wonder what is the oldest
             | angry car.
        
             | blastro wrote:
             | Fairly profound point. The old Ford Taurus basically smiled
             | at you.
        
         | itsoktocry wrote:
         | [flagged]
        
         | bjt2n3904 wrote:
         | > my-car-is-my-identity culture
         | 
         | Projection much?
        
           | forgetfulness wrote:
           | For instance: https://www.reddit.com/gallery/y78psk
        
             | dahfizz wrote:
             | Its not unreasonable to point out that having your own car
             | unlocks a lot of personal freedom and independence. That
             | post is obvious flame bait but I find it hard to argue the
             | underlying truth.
        
           | amelius wrote:
           | My phone is already my identity.
        
       | mechanical_bear wrote:
       | No Toyota Tacoma...probably the most popular truck in many US
       | states. No Ram trucks. No Subaru WRX, nor BRZ. Really neat
       | concept, but I wish it had more US vehicles.
        
         | Gordonjcp wrote:
         | Dodge Ram is about the same as a small or mid-size Ford
         | Transit, so you could pick one of those.
        
           | jsmith45 wrote:
           | "Dodge Ram" hasn't been a thing since 2010, when they spit
           | Ram out to be a separate brand. However the site does have a
           | 2010-2019 (a.k.a 4th generation Ram) listed under the Dodge
           | brand, which is technically fair, because the initial units
           | of the 4th generation were Dodge branded.
           | 
           | However to add the 5th generation they would really need to
           | split it out as a sperate brand to be correct, and if they do
           | so, they should duplicate the 4th generation into the new
           | brand.
        
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         | dsfyu404ed wrote:
         | >probably the most popular truck in many US states.
         | 
         | Wealthy inner suburbs where white collar professionals live
         | they absolutely dominate. Everywhere else people buy half tons
         | because you get so much more vehicle for your dollar, the fuel
         | economy penalty is marginal and with modern tech they're not
         | really that much more unwieldy to drive.
        
         | userbinator wrote:
         | The Ram is there and so is a WRX:
         | 
         | https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/subaru-impreza-2014...
         | 
         | But you're right about the others --- this site seems to be
         | Europe-focused.
        
           | Nition wrote:
           | It does have the Toyota Hilux, which is very similar to the
           | Tacoma.
        
             | chrisBob wrote:
             | The Hilux works if your goal is to compare a random compact
             | car to an average midsize truck, but if your goal is to
             | look at how a Ford Ranger compares to a Toyota Tacoma then
             | you are out of luck.
             | 
             | I am currently shopping for a new vehicle, and this
             | comparison could be very useful if it had the models I am
             | considering.
        
       | gregod wrote:
       | This is a good example for an interactive non-SPA. JS only for
       | cosmetics and all state is fully stored in the URLs. The main
       | pages could even be statically generated (858705 combinations * 3
       | views * 8KB = 20GB).
        
       | NikolaNovak wrote:
       | I was very excited, but it seems external dimension only, and
       | I've found time and again that outside dimensions have lose
       | relationship to inside dimensions. Choices and tradeoffs around
       | engine orientation and placement, front vs rear vs trunk sizes
       | etc, can all make a massive difference. They include cargo volume
       | in numbers but not front/rear seat sizes, which is critical to me
       | both as tall driver and with children seats :-/
        
       | smm11 wrote:
       | "Toyota" shows one car. "Ford" shows one car.
        
         | pugworthy wrote:
         | My MG Midget is sad. Austin Healey is as close as I can get
        
         | kennybrea wrote:
         | It's a bit wonky. You have to select the manufacturer and then
         | the model - it'll also have a year if available.
        
           | Animats wrote:
           | I want to see some of those new 6-door pickups.
        
       | VanTodi wrote:
       | Sadly no marauder in the selection. Would love to see the
       | comparison
        
       | AdamN wrote:
       | This site is old school but a bit more informative and fast (from
       | a UX perspective):
       | 
       | https://www.automobiledimension.com/car-comparison.php
       | 
       | One thing missing is rear leg room (which is critical for me
       | right now with a family of 4)
        
         | spacehunt wrote:
         | Unfortunately this site is not useful for me, as it seems there
         | is no way to select my current car, a VW Golf Mk6 5 door.
        
         | huhtenberg wrote:
         | Yours is far less useful as all cars are rendered roughly the
         | same size and side by side. Its utility and its UX is tangibly
         | inferior to the submitted site.
        
       | sandos wrote:
       | Theyr'e missing Rivian!
        
       | roughly wrote:
       | So here's my problem these days:
       | 
       | https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/bmw-3-1997-coupe-vs...
        
         | jdmichal wrote:
         | I love how obvious this makes the fact that truck headlights
         | are perfectly placed to shine directly into the rear window and
         | mirrors of a car. I've had to angle my side mirrors down
         | sitting at a light with a truck behind me. They don't have
         | dimming, and I end up just repeatedly blinding myself peeking
         | in the mirror.
        
         | albertsun wrote:
         | This is pretty interesting too:
         | https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/bmw-3-1997-sedan-vs...
         | 
         | Same car has grown by 5% over 15 years.
        
       | avereveard wrote:
       | Bummer that the front/rear view isn't superimposed, pillars angle
       | and position is a major factor in internal space
        
       | ck2 wrote:
       | I'd like to see like three different sized humans to scale in
       | front of the vehicles to show how much or little the driver can
       | see.
       | 
       | Like the way kids are invisible when they cross in front of
       | modern American pickups and SUVs
        
       | losvedir wrote:
       | Very cool! I just did some car shopping and compiled a
       | spreadsheet of the various dimensions of the cars we were
       | considering. This would have been a perfect tool for us. It's
       | kind of hard to really get a sense of the numbers otherwise.
       | Looks like it doesn't have a way of visualizing interiors,
       | unfortunately.
        
         | friendzis wrote:
         | I agree on the sentiment. Take some old "large" car and newish
         | midsize car. While the old car will be huge on the outside,
         | steering wheel to backseat distance will be pretty very much
         | comparable. And aside from general ergonomics, that's the thing
         | one usually cares about when looking for larger than micro cars
        
         | pikma wrote:
         | +1, this would have been super to me too when buying a car with
         | the constraint of having a tiny garage with a weird shape.
         | 
         | What I really wanted was a tool that lets me draw the plan of
         | the garage and then tells me if I'll be able to park my car,
         | and the margin (min offset to wall during the whole maneuver).
         | 
         | I couldn't find that at the time sadly.
        
         | poly_morphis wrote:
         | +1 for the interiors. I'm doing car shopping right now, and
         | this is the type of thing I've been looking for. I wanted a way
         | to visualize the approximate height difference of sitting in
         | the cabin of a CUV vs sedan.
        
           | nawgz wrote:
           | Subaru Outback has the best cabin
        
       | a-b wrote:
       | Great idea! I hope to see improved search and size filtering in
       | future versions. It's annoying to select the maker first and
       | later model. It would be great if I can type the model, select
       | year, and get results.
        
       | unglaublich wrote:
       | Should compare it to average parking spot size.
        
       | zwilliamson wrote:
       | My whole family worked for a major car manufacturer. My mother
       | was the first woman tin smith hired there. I grew up loving cars
       | (rural living). But now I've lost the love. I think mainly after
       | seeing what they do to amazing cities like SF and Seattle my
       | heart has changed. We need to subsidize and promote better
       | personal mobility options. My daily driver is a Riese & Muller
       | Load 60 e-cargo bike. I've had it since 2020. I've lived in
       | multiple cities and it is an ideal personal mobility setup. My
       | dog rides around with me too! Why am I the only one in this town
       | riding around in one? It's not a money problem. I see people
       | buying secondary cars to drive 2 blocks to the grocery store. Is
       | it a safety issue? Very fixable. Are people lazy? Absolutely, but
       | they can be motivated.
       | 
       | In the US we had a massive infra bill pass. How much is going to
       | local pedestrian and cycling infrastructure? Just so frustrating
       | the stranglehold cars have on us.
        
         | dfxm12 wrote:
         | It's part auto lobby, part ID pol. Conservatives, like Marjorie
         | Taylor Greene, for some reason are against any mode of
         | transportation that isn't powered by an ICE. She's said
         | "Democrats like Pete Buttigieg want to emasculate the way we
         | drive and force all of you to rely on electric vehicles".
         | 
         | The bill had a hard time passing as it was...
        
           | neuronic wrote:
           | Aha, loving the smell and feel of burned or non-burned
           | degraded zooplankton matter is masculine but driving across
           | the city with the power of lightening like Thor himself is
           | not. Got it.
           | 
           | What I actually wanted to express: it's about framing and
           | marketing and people like MTG capitalize on that. In the end,
           | emotions will play a big role when it comes to adoption and
           | this is where media and advertising giants come in.
        
         | ryanianian wrote:
         | I live in a very walkable city (NYC). But I don't dare ride a
         | bike. The car traffic is too nasty, and I'm very non-confident
         | about my bike-riding abilities. I would love a motorized three-
         | wheeler or something where I don't have to balance on my own
         | _too_ much. Maybe with a roof for the rain.
         | 
         | Perhaps I'm dreaming of a world full of personal tuk-tuks and
         | golf-carts? It's annoying that the only real options in the US
         | seem to be "30 pound bike" or "2-ton+ car".
        
         | stronglikedan wrote:
         | I just love my car. I just love to drive it. I love to go where
         | I want, whenever I want. I hate being driven - it's anxiety
         | inducing and mind-numbingly boring. I appreciate the car-
         | friendly infrastructure.
         | 
         | I'd wager most drivers IRL are like me, despite the vocal
         | online minority. We should work on better infrastructure that
         | allows for all public and private transport modes to work about
         | equally as well in a given space.
        
         | djaychela wrote:
         | Just looked at the Riese & Muller. Looks great, but I think
         | part of the problem with ebikes like this is that they -are-
         | the price of a secondhand car, and most people will just go
         | with that instead. I've got a 'normal' ebike, and I used it a
         | lot in lockdown, and often use it to go to the local shops.
         | Would love something like the R&M, but it's a lot of money...
        
       | logicallee wrote:
       | The page lists "858705 comparison combinations":
       | https://imgur.com/a/coBCan8
       | 
       | For anyone who is curious what means, it means they must have
       | 1311 cars in the database.
       | 
       | (1311 cars for the first choice * 1310 cars for the second choice
       | assuming you can't compare a car against itself, divided by two
       | since order doesn't matter. 1311*1310/2=858705.)
       | 
       | How I found it: https://hastebin.com/raw/ekeqegoxuv
       | 
       | If anyone wants to hire me as a data scientist, my email is open
       | :) I code Python, R, and the major languages (a bit of
       | JavaScript, Go, whatever is needed) and am interested in AI, my
       | latest project is here:
       | https://github.com/robss2020/computerplayverysexymusic
        
         | bnegreve wrote:
         | > For anyone who is curious what means, it means they must have
         | 1311 cars in the database.
         | 
         | They do, the list is available here
         | https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/. A quick pipe of this list
         | into wc -l gives you 1311.
        
           | logicallee wrote:
           | Thank you. Nice to have that confirmation! :D
        
         | defrost wrote:
         | Ahhh, likely there's a few restrictions to "comparisons within
         | groups" for some value of {group} ?
         | 
         | Is there any notion of 'same' as in only { sedans | trucks } to
         | { sedans | trucks } etc?
        
           | logicallee wrote:
           | no restrictions, meanwhile I found the answer :) (I put my
           | original question into a pastebin) But thank you.
        
       | felipelalli wrote:
       | It doesn't have my car. :-(
        
       | LisaDziuba wrote:
       | [dead]
        
       | logicalmonster wrote:
       | This is pretty cool, but IMO a missing feature of this website
       | would be to show cars in front/back of the side view to display
       | what it looks like trying to park. The biggest reason to get a
       | smaller car IMO is the easier time you have parking in tight
       | spots. That would really highlight the differences.
        
       | jakebasile wrote:
       | I've found a few of these types of sites over time, and I find
       | them pretty handy. This one gets added to the list!
       | 
       | There's Handgun Hero [1] for comparing ... handgun sizes, which
       | is super handy when window shopping for something new, to compare
       | it to something I already have.
       | 
       | There's Camera Size [2] which compares, you guessed it, cameras.
       | Handy for the exact same reasons as the above. For a more
       | technical comparison you can use DPReview's comparator [3].
       | 
       | [1]: https://www.handgunhero.com/
       | 
       | [2]: https://camerasize.com/
       | 
       | [3]: https://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/cameras
        
         | etrautmann wrote:
         | How often does someone need to buy new handguns?
        
           | alkonaut wrote:
           | I guess it's like guitars and bikes, a small group will
           | "need" a new one/another one (guilty of both), but for most
           | people you either need zero or you need one and never need to
           | swap once you have one. But I agree that having a site for
           | comparing feels quite alien to those of us outside the US
           | (for reference, I'm 40+, made military service and still
           | haven't even _seen_ a handgun outside of its holster on
           | uniformed officers).
        
             | InitialLastName wrote:
             | For the sake of our society, I really hope most gun owners
             | don't need to replace stolen guns as often as bike owners
             | have to replace stolen bikes.
        
               | 0xffff2 wrote:
               | I don't think that's what GP meant, rather the common
               | trope amongst cyclists is the the ideal number of bikes
               | to own is `n + 1`, where `n` is the number of bikes you
               | currently own.
        
             | Gordonjcp wrote:
             | I didn't really get handgun culture (I'm in the UK,
             | everyone has rifles and shotguns, handguns aren't a thing
             | any more since we had a school shooting in the 90ss) until
             | I read an exchange on Reddit which was full of comments
             | like "Ah yeah but what you do is you unscrew that top part,
             | drill and tap it a size larger, and then you can bolt on
             | <some part off a different gun> which allows you to mount
             | <some sort of otherwise incompatible accessory> and by
             | taking a bit off the grips it'll actually be lighter and
             | better balanced and easier to get the sights dialled in and
             | then..."
             | 
             | Wait a bloody minute, I get it now - you guys are _geeks_!
             | Just like the synth geeks and Landrover geeks I know, it 's
             | the same conversations with some different nouns in it.
        
               | gigaflop wrote:
               | There's something sexy about the CZ Shadow 2, even though
               | I don't own nay handguns.
        
               | gvurrdon wrote:
               | We do still have some handguns, such as single-shot
               | flintlocks, muzzle-loading revolvers of 1850s design, and
               | some modern handguns which have been extended with long
               | barrels and counterweights to make them >= 60cm in length
               | (IIRC). I think that these aren't very common at all
               | compared with shortguns and rifles though. From what I've
               | heard, when modern handguns were banned some shooters
               | switched to modern reproductions of the mid-19th century
               | models only to find that they didn't much like the
               | cleaning (black powder makes a lot of mess), fiddling and
               | slow loading that goes along with these guns.
               | 
               | https://www.henrykrank.com/guns/muzzle-loading-guns/
        
               | User23 wrote:
               | > From what I've heard, when modern handguns were banned
               | some shooters switched to modern reproductions of the
               | mid-19th century models only to find that they didn't
               | much like the cleaning (black powder makes a lot of
               | mess), fiddling and slow loading that goes along with
               | these guns.
               | 
               | One cleans black powder firearms with regular old soap
               | and water, which is really interesting to me. I hear some
               | people even just put them in the dishwasher!
               | 
               | A practiced shooter can load faster than you'd think, but
               | using a powder horn and the plunger is still considerably
               | slower than loading a cartridge revolver with a speed-
               | loader or by hand. It is possible to make paper
               | cartridges with pre-measured powder charges that can just
               | be dropped in and then plunged. In that case it's almost
               | as fast as loading brass cartridges one at a time, which
               | is still considerably slower than modern alternatives.
               | This is why American cowboys would carry at least two
               | revolvers for a total of 10 rounds, or 12 if they were
               | feeling brave. The reason why 10 is that there were no
               | firing pin safeties, so if you got banged hard and there
               | was a round in the top chamber it could accidentally
               | discharge.
               | 
               | As an aside, in the USA a 19th century design muzzle
               | loader isn't even legally a firearm under federal law.
               | You can buy one on eBay and have it mailed straight to
               | your door. I don't know if any of the states have
               | restrictions, but so far as I know black powder firearms
               | aren't really used for any kind of criminal activity
               | except maybe poaching.
        
               | jgbmlg wrote:
               | Before the 19th Century, black powder was so incompletely
               | combustible that firearms, despite allowing a huge amount
               | of windage (the difference between the diameters of the
               | barrel and the ball), would become too fouled to load
               | after as few as 4 shots. That's why smoothbores were used
               | long after the rifle was invented. During battles,
               | soldiers peed down the barrel and used their ramrods to
               | clean them.
        
               | gvurrdon wrote:
               | Cleaning is indeed quite easy and could indeed be done
               | with a bit of hot water and soap. It can take a while,
               | though. I've heard that about the sale of these guns in
               | the US. Presumably there's not much demand given the
               | prevalence of better modern designs. Over here, an
               | original antique revolver of that period could also be
               | posted directly to a purchaser who could hold it without
               | a licence, as long as they weren't a known criminal. If
               | the owner wanted to fire it they would need a licence. I
               | am reminded that there are a small number of modern
               | revolvers using smokeless powder that have been converted
               | to a loading mechanism resembling that of the mid-19th
               | century. These are also legal here.
               | 
               | http://www.westlakeengineering.com/products/
        
               | bjt2n3904 wrote:
               | I call them "Barbie dolls for men". You gotta
               | accessorize!
        
           | jakebasile wrote:
           | Twice a day with meals, and call me in the morning.
        
           | AlgorithmicTime wrote:
           | [dead]
        
           | jgbmlg wrote:
           | Every time you throw one off a bridge.
        
           | sawjet wrote:
           | More often than I buy new cars
        
           | omeid2 wrote:
           | In USA, gun per capita is over 2 and majority of democrats,
           | who approach almost 50%, do not own guns. So the answer is
           | "often", if you consider USA.
        
             | sokoloff wrote:
             | The data I looked up suggested it was 1.2 guns/American
             | (not over 2.0), but in any case, I think the majority of
             | both parties own exactly zero (56% of Republicans and 80%
             | of Democrats per a survey in the same article).
             | 
             | https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/06/02/us/gun-ownership-
             | numbers-...
        
               | User23 wrote:
               | That's legal guns. Democrats own considerably more
               | illegal guns than Republicans. Obviously self-reported
               | data for illegal firearms is low quality.
        
               | kube-system wrote:
               | Yeah, there's just _tons_ of 922r compliance going on
               | down at everyone 's local range. And everyone's "solvent
               | trap" keeps springing a leak right at the end, some how.
               | /s
        
               | User23 wrote:
               | 922r is basically just a buy American regulation that has
               | the added bonus of letting ATF hassle people selectively.
               | On the other hand, "solvent traps" remind me of wine
               | bricks[1]. Both are obviously legal. Sure you could do
               | illegal things with them, but you could do illegal things
               | with a coke bottle too.
               | 
               | But what does this have to do with illegal guns as any
               | ordinary person understands them? Maybe some Republican
               | bubba's Benelli duck hunting gun is technically illegal
               | because he put a mag extension on it without swapping out
               | enough Italian made parts, but frankly you're grasping at
               | irrelevancies.
               | 
               | Meanwhile, plenty of Democrats in Chicago own illegal
               | sears for their Glocks along with drum mags[2]. Now
               | that's something that maybe we should care about, because
               | those are real criminals hurting real people and not just
               | criminals on paper for violating frankly ridiculous
               | regulations.
               | 
               | Edit: Added easily Google-able link for illegal sears in
               | Chicago.
               | 
               | [1] https://vinepair.com/wine-blog/how-wine-bricks-saved-
               | the-u-s...
               | 
               | [2] https://www.npr.org/2022/10/28/1131026241/chicago-
               | handgun-vi...
        
               | kube-system wrote:
               | There's a word for people who pick and choose which laws
               | to follow: criminals. And I don't think there's too many
               | duck guns subject to 922r.
               | 
               | > Meanwhile, plenty of Democrats in Chicago own illegal
               | sears for their Glocks along with drum mags.
               | 
               | How do you know they're democrats?
        
               | AlgorithmicTime wrote:
               | [dead]
        
           | recuter wrote:
           | If you get into Guitars we call it GAS (Guitar Acquisition
           | Syndrome).
           | 
           | Some ladies even have fashion accessories, you can color
           | match your guns and purses for every occasion. Try it before
           | you knock it. ;)
        
             | wayvey wrote:
             | Synthesizer and other electronic music enthusiasts also
             | have GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome)
        
               | davedx wrote:
               | Vinyl also used to be called "black crack" :)
        
               | Gordonjcp wrote:
               | I just need to get one more patchbay until it's perfect.
               | Maybe a different mixer, or maybe just a new ADAT
               | converter for the one I already have.
               | 
               | But then that's it, no more.
               | 
               | Same time next week, then?
        
             | prmoustache wrote:
             | GAS may have come from guitars (I don't know really) but is
             | now commonly referred for any hobby as Gear Acquisition
             | Syndrome
        
               | recuter wrote:
               | I don't know where it started either, maybe originally it
               | was Gun Acquisition Syndrome, ha.
               | 
               | But I'd like to believe it all started right here:
               | 
               | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7-5io1muSQ
        
               | grecy wrote:
               | N+1 is the number of <things> you need.
               | 
               | Bikes, snowboards, surfboards, guitars, etc
        
               | InitialLastName wrote:
               | where N < the number where your spouse leaves you.
        
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               | recuter wrote:
               | Spouses come and go. A limited edition PRS is forever.
               | Besides it is probably going to end up a collectible and
               | increase in value. Can't afford not to buy it really.
        
               | InitialLastName wrote:
               | Without another adult in the household, how can I
               | reasonably justify needing a 2-car garage to store all my
               | bikes?
        
               | recuter wrote:
               | That's easy. You watch a few FortNite videos on YouTube
               | and slowly but surely end up with a small motorcycle
               | collection.
               | 
               | You're going to want to work on your own bikes and
               | eventually fabricate your ow-- basically, you need the
               | space for your $250,000 CNC machine anyhow, so..
        
         | 22c wrote:
         | Was recently linked to EloShapes [1] for comparing computer
         | mouse size/profiles.
         | 
         | [1]: https://www.eloshapes.com/
        
         | bjt2n3904 wrote:
         | It seems like we need a meta website. "I need to visually
         | compare the size of XYZ.com" that helps you find sites like
         | these.
        
         | abruzzi wrote:
         | Camera size was great--I just wish they had old cameras, now
         | that I don't shoot digital anymore.
         | 
         | One of the most useful for me is https://cycle-ergo.com . The
         | fit and riding position of a motocycle is very personal--sport
         | bikes lean you forward, adventure you stay upright, cruisers
         | lean you back. But beyond that, can you reach the gound (and do
         | you care), how much of a stretch are the pedals. The site is
         | not perfect, but gives you an idea how you will fit before you
         | have a chance to throw your leg over.
        
         | tcmb wrote:
         | Not quite the same but similar is https://geometrygeeks.bike/
         | for comparing, you guessed it, bicycle geometries. No bike
         | photos on this one, though.
        
       | dschep wrote:
       | You should add a child and adult for scale. So many cars are just
       | dangerously large these days.
        
       | brulard wrote:
       | This is beautiful. It must have been a lot of work to collect all
       | that data and images. Although the UX is a little shaky. When
       | searching for a vehicle the UI jumps around. And it would be
       | useful to just search for a vehicle in a single query and not
       | have to go always through the manufacturer first.
        
       | King-Aaron wrote:
       | No NA mx5 :( But some fairly obscure cars in other brands lol.
        
         | BoorishBears wrote:
         | I was shocked to see my 124 Spider listed
         | 
         | But the NB is pretty similar dimensionally to the NA, only the
         | NC is entirely missing
        
       | ggm wrote:
       | MG & BYD? more chinese makes, they're killing the EV market.
        
         | timidiceball wrote:
         | Yea the first thing I looked up was Hongqi (specifically the
         | E-Hs9) as they've grown popular here.
        
       | emzo wrote:
       | This is really well done. I'd love to see some more info about
       | the process of photographing the cars.
        
       | xnx wrote:
       | Very cool. Is there a way to make the front and rear views
       | overlap like the side view does?
        
         | albert_e wrote:
         | I had the exact comment to make.
         | 
         | Overlapped view gives the easiest way to compare. A
         | transparency slider might also be useful.
         | 
         | Going further a 3D model of cars set side-by-side on a
         | rotatable plaform would be next step i guess though the
         | value:complexity may not be that great. One could put a person
         | standing next to it and make the person's height adjustable too
         | :)
         | 
         | I feel like a product manager who doesn't need to care about
         | implementation complexity :)
        
       | kennybrea wrote:
       | Found this and thought it's neat to see the dimensions of cars
       | properly. Mostly because there's a larger influx of American
       | pickups in my town and I'm not enjoying it one bit.
        
         | CalRobert wrote:
         | Was weird to see so many Dodge Rams in the Netherlands.
        
           | Doxin wrote:
           | Where do all these people even park those behemoths? Do they
           | just double park all of the time?
        
             | davedx wrote:
             | Yup! Even when they could have fit it into a single slot,
             | often they'll take two
        
             | Laarlf wrote:
             | I would assume that if you go out of your way to have a
             | company and buy a massive pickup that is more expensive
             | than a Van and less usable you probably do not give a shit.
             | The fact that they can basically ignore BPM on company cars
             | is absolutely stupid.
        
               | michpoch wrote:
               | Yeah but you buy a pickup for a work that you could not
               | do with a van.
               | 
               | Pickups are for farmers, how do you carry pigs or a pile
               | of dirt in a van?
        
               | Gordonjcp wrote:
               | You don't, you carry them in a trailer.
               | 
               | How do you carry them in pickup?
        
               | dsfyu404ed wrote:
               | >how do you carry pigs or a pile of dirt in a van?
               | 
               | With less convenience and more difficulty.
               | 
               | I've done that kind of stuff, not great but it works. I
               | can definitely see why people who don't very, very, very
               | frequently need the enclosed cargo space prefer the
               | pickups over vans.
        
             | yourusername wrote:
             | Presumably the same place they would park the Mercedes
             | Sprinter that they would have otherwise that is about the
             | same size. The people driving American pickups in the
             | Netherlands are almost all contractors and they're a bit
             | shorter and a bit wider than a Mercedes Sprinter.
        
               | krisoft wrote:
               | > The people driving American pickups in the Netherlands
               | are almost all contractors and they're a bit shorter and
               | a bit wider than a Mercedes Sprinter.
               | 
               | I imagined all these people who are only a bit shorter
               | but a bit wider than a van. :)
        
             | jameshart wrote:
             | Small nit: 'double parking' does not mean 'parking in two
             | parking spaces'. It generally means parallel parking next
             | to a car that is already parallel parked - ie, parking
             | roadside in a second row alongside a first row of parked
             | cars.
             | 
             | More generally it refers to doubling up two cars in a
             | parking space in such a way that one car blocks the other
             | in (eg parking two cars nose to tail in a long parking bay)
        
               | InitialLastName wrote:
               | At least in my region, the phrase is used about evenly to
               | refer to both:
               | 
               | - Parking in the roadway next to the row of parallel
               | parked cars/in other ways such that parked cars are
               | blocked in
               | 
               | and
               | 
               | - Parking a single car such that two parking spots are
               | obstructed (unjustifiably so, e.g. nobody would likely
               | talk that way about an RV taking two parallel parking
               | spots).
               | 
               | The difference in usage seems to depend on whether you
               | (and your local cohort) spend more of your time parking
               | in parking lots or on the street.
        
               | jameshart wrote:
               | Double parking is a legal term for a specific traffic
               | violation.
               | 
               | People who use it to refer to parking across two bays in
               | a parking lot are using it _wrong_.
               | 
               | It's like saying 'well people in my region use the word
               | "speeding" both to refer to going over the speed limit,
               | and for going through a red light'.
               | 
               | People in your region have heard a term and misunderstood
               | it.
               | 
               | Laws commonly include exceptions like;
               | 
               | > Vehicles used ordinarily for transportation of
               | merchandise may double park for the purpose of, but only
               | while engaged in, the expeditious loading or unloading
               | 
               | - that doesn't mean delivery vehicles can park across two
               | bays in a parking lot.
        
               | InitialLastName wrote:
               | > People in your region have heard a term and
               | misunderstood it.
               | 
               | Language is how people use it. That sounds like a
               | perfectly valid route to adding a colloquial meaning to a
               | word.
        
               | jameshart wrote:
               | I'm as descriptivist as the next enlightened linguistic
               | scholar, but this phrase has a specific meaning in
               | traffic codes. Misunderstanding it is dangerous.
        
               | kube-system wrote:
               | The initial mention of it in this thread was not in a
               | legal context.
        
       | PaulWaldman wrote:
       | Does anyone know of a more generic version of this site? One
       | where you can upload pictures with known dimensions and they can
       | then be scaled accordingly.
        
       | tmnvix wrote:
       | You could include an image behind the vehicles for scale. Perhaps
       | a family.
        
         | hbarka wrote:
         | or banana boxes
         | 
         | https://youtu.be/RB6ZrjftKu8
        
       | 1970-01-01 wrote:
       | I would love to see standard garage sizes as a background.
       | 
       | https://www.homestratosphere.com/standard-garage-dimensions/
        
       | a3w wrote:
       | So, no tanks for comparison? Guess some would be smaller.
       | 
       | > At over five meters, the Mercedes GL X166 is one of the largest
       | SUVs. According to the German Transport Club, it is even bigger
       | than a tank.
       | 
       | (Actually, "than a Panzer", and discussing what is a tank and
       | what is not is the same w/ the Panzerwaffe in germany, e.g. a
       | Marder, not a Leopard, here)
        
         | Someone wrote:
         | The original Panzer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_I)
         | was only 4 meters and 2 centimeters long.
         | 
         | That's large for a tankette
         | (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankette.
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carden_Loyd_tankette shows how
         | small these could be) but small for a tank.
        
       | rr808 wrote:
       | This is great, its always difficult to see comparisons online. Of
       | the the big 3 row SUV looks as big as the smallest compact. I'd
       | love to see trunk space too.
        
       | huhtenberg wrote:
       | > 858705 comparison combinations
       | 
       | So 1311 cars in their database.
        
       | xtiansimon wrote:
       | Ooh! I want motorcycles
        
       | pcurve wrote:
       | I did GMC Yukon extended and Mini cooper 3door. And swap the
       | order. Mini entire length is the same as Yukon wheelbase.
        
       | causi wrote:
       | I got excited about this but then neither the car I currently own
       | nor the car I'm considering buying are listed.
        
       | delta_p_delta_x wrote:
       | Huh, there is less difference between D-segment (3-series, A4,
       | C-class) and E-segment (5-series, A6, E-class) cars than I
       | thought.
        
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