[HN Gopher] Introducing Rust Support in CodeSandbox, start a Rus...
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       Introducing Rust Support in CodeSandbox, start a Rust VM in one
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       Author : CompuIves
       Score  : 46 points
       Date   : 2023-01-19 19:01 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | revskill wrote:
       | I'm hoping Codesandbox would provide for CI/CD to directly deploy
       | to production somehow. Basically, it's a "code in cloud" dream.
        
         | CaveTech wrote:
         | It's easy enough to add additional actions, so you could pair
         | it with netlify, vercel, etc.
        
           | revskill wrote:
           | Ease and how long to do it is orthogonal i think.
        
           | CompuIves wrote:
           | Yep that works, you can either create a task in the editor
           | for it (using the CLI), or you connect it to a GitHub Repo
           | and install actions.
           | 
           | That said, it is something on our radar, being able to press
           | a button for deploy from CodeSandbox would be valuable for
           | many people!
        
       | sigmonsays wrote:
       | How many developers are there who are happy using some web based
       | IDE versus their own tools?
       | 
       | I'd prefer having my own dev tools maintained locally by me but
       | i'm curious if i'm becoming the minority
        
         | lhnz wrote:
         | I tend to prefer this way of working when I am doing a demo for
         | my team or write the beginning of an open-source hack.
        
         | pictur wrote:
         | I started using it while developing on a site running on
         | nextjs. It works pretty fast and I can get things done faster.
         | There are minor issues, of course, but in its current state it
         | works just fine.
        
         | slaymaker1907 wrote:
         | I like it when I want to test something out quickly so setting
         | up a full dev environment isn't worth the effort.
        
         | flashgordon wrote:
         | +1 - Personally not a fan of cloud IDEs - I am ok if the front-
         | end for the tool itself is html based but run by/on a local
         | http/websocket server. Having to maintain my entire stack on
         | the cloud somewhere is something I still havent gotten
         | comfortable (yes we use Github for source control _somewhere_
         | and cloud for running you stuff _somewhere_ ). Then again I
         | didnt _get_ containers 15 years ago!
        
         | CompuIves wrote:
         | I'm using a web based IDE for my dev, but I'm biased in that
         | sense. The main advantage for me is that I can easily switch
         | branches, as every branch has its own VM. + I can easily share
         | in-progress work. I do use the VSCode integration, because I'm
         | very used to VSCode.
         | 
         | That said, I've also spoken with people who use a Web IDE next
         | to their local environment. E.g. they use a Web IDE for
         | reviewing PRs or making smaller changes, and they use their
         | local editor for feature development.
        
           | Ankhers wrote:
           | If this is just for being able to easily switch branches,
           | have you considered using git worktrees? Essentially you have
           | have multiple branches checked out into different directories
           | at the same time. The key point though is that all git refs
           | are still maintained in a single place so you are not
           | actually having full clones for each worktree that you have.
           | 
           | I personally use Emacs and magit which has great support for
           | worktrees. I do not know if the VSCode git integration
           | supports it.
        
             | CompuIves wrote:
             | Ah right, the main advantage I have here is that the dev
             | server also stays running when I go to another branch
             | (since it's a different VM). So I can work on one thing,
             | share it with the team and in the meantime continue on
             | another branch. They can see the devserver / running code,
             | while I am working on something else.
             | 
             | It's especially useful for things like migrations or
             | dependency management. In one branch I could work on
             | something that has some database migrations, and then I can
             | still switch to other branches without having to roll back
             | the migrations.
             | 
             | I didn't know about git worktrees though! I'm going to read
             | up on this.
        
               | faitswulff wrote:
               | > In one branch I could work on something that has some
               | database migrations, and then I can still switch to other
               | branches without having to roll back the migrations.
               | 
               | I would love to have this workflow locally.
        
             | slaymaker1907 wrote:
             | I use it with VS Code since the project I work on takes
             | 5-10 minutes to build if a major header is modified. It
             | shows up as a separate directory, but VS Code will still
             | realize that the directory is a git worktree.
             | 
             | The only thing kind of clunky is that you have to keep
             | track of which branch is open in which directory since you
             | can't checkout the same branch in two different
             | directories.
        
       | CompuIves wrote:
       | Hey all! I'm one of the co-founders of CodeSandbox and a big fan
       | of Rust. Rust support is something that we've been working on for
       | a while, but the recent addition of Docker support in CodeSandbox
       | really enabled it. Happy to answer any questions!
        
         | MuffinFlavored wrote:
         | Is your biggest competitor Repl.it? What advantages do you have
         | compared to them?
         | 
         | I know https://play.rust-lang.org/ is pretty limited as well.
        
           | CompuIves wrote:
           | Yeah Repl.it is one of the bigger ones.
           | 
           | I'd say that CodeSandbox has a strong focus on extending the
           | existing workflow for developers. That's why we have a VSCode
           | integration, a GitHub integration with a GitHub App that
           | creates a running dev env for every branch/PR, and we make
           | sure that generally all editor features you expect
           | (autocomplete, go to definition, hover info, etc) are
           | available for the languages that we support.
        
             | MuffinFlavored wrote:
             | Are you basically reselling hosted
             | https://github.com/coder/code-server?
        
               | CompuIves wrote:
               | No, we've built our own web editor & iOS code editor. In
               | our v1 editor we did run VSCode in the browser, but that
               | was before code-server was released (in 2018). Even if we
               | wanted to run code-server, that would be impossible as we
               | allow for multiple users to open the same sandbox/branch,
               | which wouldn't fit the model of VSCode server (which is
               | single user per server).
        
               | kylecarbs wrote:
               | They aren't at all (creator of code-server here)! I'm a
               | big fan of their work.
        
         | terpimost wrote:
         | I recently tried to work on CodeSandbox. Simple examples didn't
         | work or I couldn't figure out how to make them work. Using
         | repl.it now. I highly recommend to go through basic examples of
         | frontend projects and evaluate them.
        
       | kodah wrote:
       | I'm not really a fan of in-browser IDEs. To me, it seems like a
       | good way to constrain tooling environments.
       | 
       | What I would love to see is an extension that runs all of my
       | tests and debugger in a type 1 hypervisor that can simply send a
       | set of instructions to setup the VM, a snapshot of the changeset,
       | and allows a developer to run that exact environment on their
       | machine. Combine that with LiveShare and you have something that
       | closely mimicks the experience of handing a keyboard and mouse
       | back and forth during pairing.
        
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