[HN Gopher] Show HN: Product Hunt Launch Dashboard
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       Show HN: Product Hunt Launch Dashboard
        
       Author : danielxli
       Score  : 37 points
       Date   : 2023-01-17 18:32 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | tofuahdude wrote:
       | I truly loath product hunt in its current state.
       | 
       | It's just a game of who can get the most friends/bots to vote.
       | 
       | Further, it is only relevant to those present in the echo
       | chamber.
        
         | Existenceblinks wrote:
         | I think an event like 'products expo' behaves more authentic.
         | Walk around, talk to people. This sucks when it comes to
         | online.
        
         | danielxli wrote:
         | It's a shame since it's such a great concept though. Lots of
         | companies need a place to launch!
        
         | dabeeeenster wrote:
         | Wholeheartedly agree. It's the most awful bay area echo chamber
         | nonsense.
         | 
         | Sorry for the negativity!
        
       | danielxli wrote:
       | We launched our product on Product Hunt today and thought it
       | would be fun to share all of the metrics we're tracking
       | associated with our launch.
       | 
       | We followed several of the Product Hunt launch checklists
       | including...
       | 
       | * https://heyday.xyz/blog/how-to-launch-on-product-hunt/
       | 
       | * https://www.producthunt.com/launch
       | 
       | Learnings so far
       | 
       | * It's REALLY important to stack a bunch of upvotes right at
       | midnight PST. We fell behind in the first hour, and it's quite
       | tough to get back in the top 10 afterwards. Make more friends in
       | Europe and Asia!
       | 
       | * Launching on PH is fun, but not a lot of discovery seems to
       | actually happen on the site. It seems like the winners from the
       | initial batch of upvotes at ~2am PT generally stay the winners
       | throughout the day
       | 
       | * Some of the "how to launch" articles suggest that only getting
       | "seasoned" accounts to upvote and comment is important. On the
       | contrary, seems like a lot of the top 3 traffic is driven by
       | fairly low quality interactions (not many comments and low
       | quality comments)
        
         | stevekemp wrote:
         | > It's REALLY important to stack a bunch of upvotes right at
         | midnight PST
         | 
         | Do you mean imply fake votes? Paid votes? Powerful friends?
         | 
         | It was alleged in the past that producthunt was gamed to such
         | an extent that it wasn't worth using, and your commentary
         | reminds me of that.
        
           | danielxli wrote:
           | I was thinking legitimate votes (get 100 of your friends to
           | stay up until midnight or get 100 friends in Asia to upvote
           | at launch time).
           | 
           | But certainly seems like there are a lot of people to help
           | round up illegitimate votes as well. We had maybe ~5 people
           | message us telling us we didn't get enough organic votes and
           | they could guarantee us more votes to get us to spot #1-5
        
         | synu wrote:
         | If you search Google for paid votes on Product Hunt, there are
         | a ton of companies that offer what you're looking for.
        
       | alixanderwang wrote:
       | ProductHunt is very gamified. You have to jump through their
       | hoops to do well, reach out to "hunters" (these guys will put
       | this badge on their twitter/linkedin) to post for you to get the
       | boost from their following, schedule to launch at the perfect
       | time, spam people to upvote you. People buy bots, PH doesn't care
       | like HN does about voting rings or authenticity.
       | 
       | We launched D2 to 629 upvotes on HN
       | (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33704254), and 1.3k on
       | Reddit. I didn't want to fuck with all that ProductHunt checklist
       | stuff and threw it on there and got 9
       | (https://www.producthunt.com/products/d2).
       | 
       | In hindsight it was probably worth playing their game. It does
       | get a lot of traffic. I just never visit the page because I know
       | how gamified it is.
        
         | danielxli wrote:
         | Interesting stats on HN vs. Reddit vs. PH!
        
         | paulgb wrote:
         | I'm curious if there are any "success stories" out there --
         | anyone who played the game and felt it made a material
         | difference to their success?
        
           | alixanderwang wrote:
           | oh i actually did play it a few years back when I launched
           | Terrastruct (company behind D2). It was just a solo-effort
           | bare bones project at the time, but I reached out to a hunter
           | and all that. Got 112 upvotes
           | (https://www.producthunt.com/products/terrastruct), and got a
           | few paid subscriptions from it.
           | 
           | It was a material morale boost at a time when I didn't know
           | if anyone would find it worth paying for. We've since grown a
           | lot. In total it was only like $20/mo, but felt like a big
           | success to me at the time.
           | 
           | I guess I A/B tested playing the game vs not playing the
           | game, as much as one can.
        
           | danielxli wrote:
           | Yeah! would love to hear if there are any of these
        
       | yawnxyz wrote:
       | that's a great way to show off your use case with Plus Docs! This
       | actually makes me want to check out and sign up for Plus more
       | than the other show HN link.
        
         | danielxli wrote:
         | Thank you! The best way to understand it is really just to see
         | it in action :)
        
       | Existenceblinks wrote:
       | I rather want some kind of marketplace that's more like solutions
       | <-> problems matching, not maker "community". For example,
       | identifying business problems is hard, the platform should solve
       | "Could these companies' problems be solved by my solutions"
       | problem. Name it realbusinessproblems.com
        
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