[HN Gopher] Microsoft launches Azure OpenAI service with ChatGPT...
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       Microsoft launches Azure OpenAI service with ChatGPT coming soon
        
       Author : andsoitis
       Score  : 62 points
       Date   : 2023-01-17 16:11 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
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       | eclectic29 wrote:
       | What is msft's role here? To act as the ops team for OpenAI? The
       | core AI model is obviously developed by OpenAI and msft is simply
       | deploying it on Azure. Am I missing something?
        
         | rapsey wrote:
         | MS and OpenAI are a partnership and MS is footing a very large
         | bill for them. In exchange for equity and first dibs on their
         | tech.
        
         | solarkraft wrote:
         | OpenAI uses mostly (only?) Azure infrastructure at favorable
         | conditions. They gave them like a billion dollars in compute a
         | while back (can't easily find the source now that they've
         | invested more).
        
         | exhibitapp wrote:
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       | ehPReth wrote:
       | Ooh. Will MS offer an "uncensored" mode? That's been my one big
       | gripe with ChatGPT; I just want to have some silly fun and their
       | censors really get in the way :(
        
         | invaliduser wrote:
         | Not really, there is this "limited access"[1] with content
         | filter an abuse monitoring: "Customers who wish to modify
         | content filters and modify abuse monitoring after they have
         | onboarded to the service are subject to additional scenario
         | restrictions and are required to register here."
         | 
         | [1] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/cognitive-
         | services/o...
        
         | sct202 wrote:
         | I would imagine they would offer an even more censored version
         | if it's going to be sold thru Azure to megacorps probably for
         | customer support/internal search purposes. Can't have people
         | having sensitive discussions with your company chat bot.
        
           | mc32 wrote:
           | Yeah, I can see that. All sorts of things would be taboo in
           | order to avoid communication which could lead to litigation
           | of one sort or another.
           | 
           | It'll certainly dampen the 'take this job and shove it'
           | options on people's last day if they can add it to internal
           | comms tools. Also would keep employees from saying the wrong
           | things to colleagues and external contacts, as well as
           | curtail exfiltration. "Mick, you don't want to send that
           | email with company confidential information to your personal
           | account; your attempt has been recorded and is viewable by
           | HR"
        
             | xg15 wrote:
             | Looking forward to the next stage where your in-person
             | conversations will be monitored and analyzed the same
             | way...
        
         | itake wrote:
         | My issue with the censors is they are too positive. If you ask
         | ChatGPT to help write a performance review of a struggling team
         | member or write a review for a bad food delivery experience,
         | ChatGPT will be extremely positive about the service or person.
        
         | ehPReth wrote:
         | note: not for commercial use; just like writing crap for
         | myself/friends and I playing around after a few drinks
        
         | mullingitover wrote:
         | I'm just waiting for someone to replicate the ChatGPT model and
         | open source it, like Stable Diffusion has done with image
         | generation. There has been a Cambrian explosion of models in
         | the image generation space, and I suspect chat-focused language
         | models won't be far behind.
        
           | rapsey wrote:
           | It takes millions in GPU costs to replicate what they did
           | though. Perhaps Google might do it to try to take the wind
           | out of their sails.
        
         | Mountain_Skies wrote:
         | We're likely headed to different countries (or allied groups)
         | having different restrictions. If something is forbidden by the
         | "International Community", you'll be able to use a Chinese host
         | for your AI, but anything that reflects negatively on the CCP
         | is going to be just as filtered as social wrong-think will be
         | in the west.
        
       | mullingitover wrote:
       | If Azure can offer up a way to train a private, custom ChatGPT
       | model on your in-house data/tickets/docs/code that's going to be
       | a killer app. Copilot is neat, but having something that can
       | synthesize knowledge from across all these areas would be a game
       | changer.
        
         | jonathanlb wrote:
         | Add a responsive API on top of that and on-prem deployment
         | capabilities and you'll absolutely put a few startups out of
         | business.
        
         | Mountain_Skies wrote:
         | No cloud based AI service in the western world will ever allow
         | you to do have true control over the training because the AI
         | might end up with wrong-think. There will be a supervisory core
         | to filter out socially unacceptable results that your training
         | data caused the AI to output. If you want unfettered AI, you're
         | going to have to do it yourself.
        
       | politician wrote:
       | Consider the alternative headline, "Microsoft launches public
       | access to slave labor camp of sentient ChatGPTs. Human rights
       | activists alarmed."
       | 
       | I don't believe that. I don't believe that most HN users that
       | have legitimate doubts about whether ChatGPT "has thoughts" would
       | actually support that absurd statement. And yet, if we keep going
       | down that path, is this not the inevitable conclusion?
        
         | Yuioup wrote:
         | I don't think we've hit the Descartes moment with ChatGPT.
        
         | belltaco wrote:
         | Does sentience necessarily mean having the ability to feel pain
         | and have emotions?
         | 
         | Anyway, the slaughter of actual sentient beings like billions
         | of cows every year proves that a large percentage of humanity
         | is quite okay with it.
        
         | advisedwang wrote:
         | The word "robot", coined in the 1920s, came from a Czech word
         | for forced labour. Since before computers even existed, we've
         | been asking ourselves whether we've crossed that ethical line.
         | And so far the answer has always, correctly, been no.
         | 
         | We should keep asking ourselves that question, seriously and
         | honestly. But while the answer is "no" lets keep developing.
        
           | dougmwne wrote:
           | Oh that is so interesting! I always thought robot was a false
           | cognate with the Polish word for doing/working. I knew it
           | couldn't have been a loan word even though the meanings felt
           | oddly connected. Turns out it was a loan word after all, just
           | in the other direction!
        
       | tiffanyh wrote:
       | Does Microsoft have an exclusive agreement with OpenAI to not
       | have it available on other clouds 3rd party marketplace (e.g.
       | AWS, GCP, etc)?
       | 
       | I wouldn't be surprised given the investment, but was curious.
        
         | daqhris wrote:
         | Maybe you missed their prior investment announcement. I think
         | Microsoft is financially backing OpenAI through some venture
         | deal.
        
           | tiffanyh wrote:
           | Nope, I'm aware. Which is why I wrote "I wouldn't be
           | surprised given the investment [that Microsoft made]"
        
       | neets wrote:
       | How many more steps till we get WestWorld IRL?
        
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