[HN Gopher] DIY Raspberry / Orange Pi NAS That Looks Like a NAS ...
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       DIY Raspberry / Orange Pi NAS That Looks Like a NAS - 2023 Edition
        
       Author : axiomdata316
       Score  : 89 points
       Date   : 2023-01-15 18:22 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | mosselman wrote:
       | Is this booting from USB or from the sd-card? I can't figure it
       | out from the installation instructions.
       | 
       | If it is the sd-card then poor installation.
        
         | axiomdata316 wrote:
         | What is an ideal setup that doesn't use that method?
        
           | mosselman wrote:
           | I am not sure if I understand your question, but what I was
           | hinting at is the reliabilty of the sd-card.
           | 
           | I've had several Raspberry installations get corrupted due to
           | power outage, which the sd-card can't handle at all.
           | 
           | Back then I didn't get booting from SSD through a USB-Sata
           | adapter working. I've read that it is easier now though.
           | 
           | What is your experience?
        
             | bornfreddy wrote:
             | Read-only sd card works pretty well though in my
             | experience. You can make it rw for upgrades and remount to
             | ro once done. All the files which need write access (but
             | you don't care about preserving) can be "saved" to tmpfs.
        
               | Shared404 wrote:
               | I'm currently using the read-only Alpine install for my
               | Raspberry Pi based wireless AP.
               | 
               | Quite functional so far.
        
             | smellstalefeet wrote:
             | I just moved my Home Assistant from SD to SSD and it
             | couldn't have been easier. Using the USB-Sata adapter I
             | plugged my SSD into my Mac and then used Balena Etcher to
             | dump the HA image directly to the SSD. Plugged it into my
             | Pi and it fired up just like it would've if it had imaged
             | to the SD card. I was pleasantly surprised with how easy it
             | was and it's nice to have HA running off of an SSD now.
        
               | andreasha wrote:
               | You can clone it while running as well [0]. For speed
               | make sure the adapter is USB3.0 and plugs into one of the
               | USB3.0 ports on the pi and also that it supports UASP and
               | enable trim on the drive [1].
               | 
               | [0] https://github.com/billw2/rpi-clone
               | 
               | [1] https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2020/raspberry-pi-
               | usb-boot...
        
           | pja wrote:
           | Pi4 will boot straight from a USB drive. Given the
           | unreliability of sd-cards this is preferable if you need a
           | USB drive anyway.
        
       | okaliptos wrote:
       | [dead]
        
       | stuntkite wrote:
       | Orange PiNAS goes hard in 2023.
        
       | smashed wrote:
       | This is a cool project and I am happy to see interest in this
       | sort of thing.
       | 
       | Too bad though that general purpose SBC's kind of suck for
       | NAS/Storage though. Both the rpi4 and orange pi zero mentioned in
       | the project lack any kind of SATA port and relies on usb to sata.
       | 
       | The best project I saw was the Helios4/Helios64
       | (https://kobol.io/), but sadly, they folded in 2021. Is there
       | anything even remotely similar around?
       | 
       | Right now I am still using intel-based mini-pc's for diy NAS
       | storage as they simply work better.
        
         | tyingq wrote:
         | Not ARM, but there's the Odroid H3 and H3+.
         | 
         | https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-h3/
         | 
         | https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-h3-plus/
        
           | hanklazard wrote:
           | Yeah, these seem pretty great for a small NAS, especially
           | with a simple mirrored ZFS setup.
        
             | MaKey wrote:
             | I'd love to have something similar with ECC RAM.
        
               | tyingq wrote:
               | Expensive, but the FAQ says it supports ECC:
               | 
               | https://morefine.com/products/morefine-s500-mini-pc
               | 
               | And it has 2 NVME slots.
        
         | sprash wrote:
         | > Is there anything even remotely similar around?
         | 
         | There is GnuBee [1] with two models for 2.5" drives [2] and
         | 3.5" drives [3].
         | 
         | 1.: http://gnubee.org/
         | 
         | 2.: https://www.crowdsupply.com/gnubee/personal-cloud-1
         | 
         | 3.: https://www.crowdsupply.com/gnubee/personal-cloud-2
        
         | ajb wrote:
         | There is also the odroid hc4. It only has two slots, but the
         | argument is, for the price you may as well expand by getting
         | multiple of them.
        
         | lokl wrote:
         | ODROID-HC4 (toaster), ODROID-HC4-P KIT (horizontal drives in
         | enclosure)
        
         | Palomides wrote:
         | it seems like none of the consumer-level ARM chips expose
         | enough PCIe lanes to do anything interesting, no SATA
         | controllers or 10Gb+ ethernet
        
           | ranma42 wrote:
           | RK3568 / RK3588 have 3 SATA controllers and for example the
           | Rock Pi 3A seems to have the SATA routed to the bottom m.2
           | connector, as well as the possibility to switch the USB3 port
           | over to SATA
           | 
           | https://linuxgizmos.com/pi-like-rk3568-sbc-grows-sata-out-
           | of...
           | 
           | "The Rock 3 Model A exploits the RK3568's ability to
           | multiplex SERDES lanes to enable SATA support on the dual USB
           | 3.0 ports (OTG and host) via a SATA breakout cable."
        
           | rektide wrote:
           | Orange Pi 5 (rk3588 based) has m.2 pcie 2.0. I think maybe
           | only a lane?
        
             | Matsta wrote:
             | Yep, you can get an m2 to SATA breakout board pretty cheap.
             | 
             | If you pickup a Rock 5b (rk3588 as well) you will get 2.5g
             | ethernet too.
        
         | bornfreddy wrote:
         | There is Argon Eon which gets good reviews, but I haven't
         | decided to try it yet. A bit more expensive than this diy - 180
         | EUR [0]. It has space for 2x 2.5 inch and 2x 3.5 inch disks. If
         | someone has it, I would be curious to know how good it is.
         | 
         | [0]
         | https://www.en.galagomarket.com//item/display/3130/10443_ohi...
        
         | gymbeaux wrote:
         | My "NAS" is a "slim" Intel NUC 8 with a 3D-printed "riser" that
         | allows it to fit a 4TB (15mm) 2.5" HDD. No redundancy of
         | course, but otherwise it's superior to a legit NAS or Pi NAS in
         | every way.
        
       | r3trohack3r wrote:
       | First time I've heard of an Orange Pi.
        
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